From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "Myklebust\, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Stanislav Kinsbursky <skinsbursky@parallels.com>,
"linux-nfs\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"devel\@openvz.org" <devel@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] SUNRPC: set desired file system root before connecting local transports
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:47:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bogb1cvl.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121009223139.GA25826@fieldses.org> (J. Bruce Fields's message of "Tue, 9 Oct 2012 18:31:39 -0400")
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> writes:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 01:20:48PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:35 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> >> Cc'ing Eric since I seem to recall he suggested doing it this way?
>>
>> Yes. On second look setting fs->root won't work. We need to change fs.
>> The problem is that by default all kernel threads share fs so changing
>> fs->root will have non-local consequences.
>
> Oh, huh. And we can't "unshare" it somehow?
I don't fully understand how nfs uses kernel threads and work queues.
My general understanding is work queues reuse their kernel threads
between different users. So it is mostly a don't pollute your
environment thing. If there was a dedicated kernel thread for each
environment this would be trivial.
What I was suggesting here is changing task->fs instead of
task->fs.root. That should just require task_lock().
> Or, previously you suggested:
>
> - introduce sockaddr_fd that can be applied to AF_UNIX sockets,
> and teach unix_bind and unix_connect how to deal with a second
> type of sockaddr, AT_FD:
> struct sockaddr_fd { short fd_family; short pad; int fd; }
>
> - introduce sockaddr_unix_at that takes a directory file
> descriptor as well as a unix path, and teach unix_bind and
> unix_connect to deal with a second sockaddr type, AF_UNIX_AT:
> struct sockaddr_unix_at { short family; short pad; int dfd; char path[102]; }
>
> Any other options?
I am still half hoping we don't have to change the userspace API/ABI.
There is sanity checking on that path that no one seems interested in to
solve this problem.
This is a weird issue as we are dealing with both the vfs and the
networking stack. Fundamentally we need to change task->fs.root or
we need to capitialize on the openat functionality in the kernel, so
that we don't create mountains of special cases to support this.
I think swapping task->fs instead of task->fs.root is effecitely the
same complexity.
>> I very much believe we want if at all possible to perform a local
>> modification.
>>
>> Changing fs isn't all that different from what devtmpfs is doing.
>
> Sorry, I don't know much about devtmpfs, are you suggesting it as a
> model? What exactly should we look at?
Roughly all I meant was that devtmpsfsd is a kernel thread that runs
with an unshared fs struct. Although I admit devtmpfsd is for all
practical purposes a userspace daemon that just happens to run in kernel
space.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-09 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-08 10:56 [PATCH v3] SUNRPC: set desired file system root before connecting local transports Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-10-09 19:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-09 19:49 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-09 19:49 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-09 20:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-09 22:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-09 22:47 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2012-10-10 1:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-10 10:32 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-10-26 17:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-10 2:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-10 5:09 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-10-10 5:03 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-11-06 10:14 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-11-06 12:06 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-06 12:11 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-11-06 13:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-06 12:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-06 13:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-06 13:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-06 13:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-07 18:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-12 8:37 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-11-14 21:01 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-14 21:36 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-11-14 21:36 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-11-14 21:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-14 21:51 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-11-14 21:51 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-11-14 21:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-15 6:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-15 13:34 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-11-15 13:34 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-11-15 18:58 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-15 8:35 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
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