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From: Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Robert Dewar <dewar@adacore.com>, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	NightStrike <nightstrike@gmail.com>,
	Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
	Chris Lattner <clattner@apple.com>, Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>,
	Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Joe Buck <Joe.Buck@synopsys.com>, Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: RELEASE BLOCKER: Linux doesn't follow x86/x86-64 ABI wrt direction  flag
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:00:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bq5rge0r.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47D027B5.5030503@zytor.com> (H. Peter Anvin's message of "Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:19:49 -0800")

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"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:

> Robert Dewar wrote:
>> H.J. Lu wrote:
>>
>>> So that is the bug in the Linux kernel. Since fixing kernel is much
>>> easier
>>> than providing a workaround in compilers, I think kernel should be fixed
>>> and no need for icc/gcc fix.
>>
>> Fixing a bug in the Linux kernel is not "much easier". You are taking
>> a purely engineering viewpoint, but life is not like that. There are
>> lots of copies of Linux kernels around and in use. The issue is not
>> fixing the kernel per se, it is propagating that change to all
>> Linux kernels in use -- THAT'S another matter entirely, and is
>> far far more difficult than making sure that a kernel fix is
>> qualified and widely proopagated.
>>
>
> Not really, it's just a matter of time.  Typical distro cycles are on
> the order of 3 years.

But distros release fixes regularly for their kernels - and adding a fix
for this issue with their next security update is something that is
possible for distros (at least for openSUSE ;-),

Andreas
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-07  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-05 15:30 Linux doesn't follow x86/x86-64 ABI wrt direction flag Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 16:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 19:58   ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 20:23     ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 20:38       ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 20:42         ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 20:49           ` Jan Hubicka
2008-03-05 21:02             ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 21:20               ` RELEASE BLOCKER: " Joe Buck
2008-03-05 21:32                 ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-05 21:34                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 21:40                     ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-05 22:16                       ` David Miller
2008-03-05 22:37                         ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 22:51                         ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 22:58                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 23:07                             ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 23:10                               ` David Miller
2008-03-05 23:16                                 ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 23:12                               ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-05 21:43                     ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 21:44                       ` Richard Guenther
     [not found]                     ` <738B72DB-A1D6-43F8-813A-E49688D05771@apple.com>
2008-03-05 21:59                       ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 22:13                         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-05 22:21                           ` David Miller
2008-03-05 23:13                           ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06  0:36                         ` Chris Lattner
2008-03-06  0:47                           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                             ` <578FCA7D-D7A6-44F6-9310-4A97C13CDCBE@apple.com>
2008-03-06  1:12                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06  9:17                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-03-06 13:51                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06 14:03                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 14:12                                     ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06 14:15                                       ` Andrew Haley
2008-03-06 17:58                                       ` Joe Buck
2008-03-06 18:10                                         ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-06 18:13                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 18:31                                             ` Jack Lloyd
2008-03-06 18:35                                               ` Andrew Pinski
2008-03-06 19:44                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 19:43                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 20:16                                                 ` Jack Lloyd
2008-03-06 21:37                                                   ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-06 15:09                                   ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 15:37                                   ` NightStrike
2008-03-06 15:43                                     ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 15:50                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 16:23                                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-03-06 16:27                                           ` İsmail Dönmez
2008-03-06 16:58                                           ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 17:06                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 17:14                                               ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 17:17                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 17:34                                                   ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-06 19:35                                                     ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 17:18                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 17:19                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 19:25                                                     ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 20:37                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-07  8:28                                                       ` Florian Weimer
2008-03-07  8:00                                                     ` Andreas Jaeger [this message]
2008-03-06 15:57                                     ` Robert Dewar
2008-03-06 16:29                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-06 17:18                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 16:14                                   ` Artur Skawina
2008-03-06  0:49                           ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 22:05                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06  2:11                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-03-06  8:44                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-06  9:01                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-03-06 15:20                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 21:45                   ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 21:43                 ` Andrew Pinski
2008-03-05 21:43                 ` Michael Matz
2008-03-05 22:12                   ` Joe Buck
2008-03-05 22:17                   ` David Miller
2008-03-05 23:17                   ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-05 23:21                     ` David Daney
2008-03-06 14:06                       ` Olivier Galibert
2008-03-08 19:10                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2008-03-05 21:07             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 20:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-05 20:52           ` Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 21:23             ` David Miller
2008-03-06  9:53             ` Andrew Haley
2008-03-06 11:45               ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-06 12:06                 ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-06 17:34                   ` Joe Buck
2008-03-06 20:54                     ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-06 20:56                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06 22:06                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-07  4:56                           ` Chris Lattner
2008-03-07 14:09                           ` Michael Matz
2008-03-06  9:45       ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-03-05 16:56 ` H.J. Lu
2008-03-05 18:14 ` [PATCH] x86: Clear DF before calling signal handler Aurelien Jarno
2008-03-05 18:17   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-06  9:21   ` Ingo Molnar

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