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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Avihai Horon" <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Prasad Pandit" <ppandit@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
	"Kirti Wankhede" <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"Zhiyi Guo" <zhguo@redhat.com>,
	"Maciej S . Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>,
	"Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/16] migration/qapi: Introduce system-wise "remaining" reports
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 09:17:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cxzovncu.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260421202110.306051-15-peterx@redhat.com> (Peter Xu's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:21:08 -0400")

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> Currently, mgmt can only query for remaining RAM,

Remind me: how?

>                                                   not system-wise remaining
> data.  It was not a problem before, because for a very long time RAM was
> the only part that matters.
>
> After VFIO migrations landed upstream, it may not be true anymore
> especially considering that there can be GPU devices that contain GBs of
> device states.
>
> Add a new "remaining" field in query-migrate results, reflecting
> system-wise remaining data, which will include everything (e.g. VFIO).

"system-wise"?  Do you mean "system-wide"?  Maybe "total"?
>
> This information will be useful for mgmt to implement generic way of stall
> detection that covers all system resources.  Say, when system remaining
> data does not decrease anymore for a relatively long period of time, then
> it may mean that there is a challenge of converging, so mgmt can act based
> on how this value changes over time (especially if sampled after each
> migration iteration).
>
> Before this patch, "expected_downtime" almost played this role. For
> example, by monitoring "expected_downtime" at the beginning of each
> iteration can in most cases also reflect the progress of migration
> system-wise.  Said that, "expected_downtime" was always calculated based on
> a bandwidth value that can fluctuate a lot if avail-switchover-bandwidth is
> not used. This new "remaining" field will remove that part of uncertainty
> for mgmt.
>
> With the new field, HMP "info migrate" now reports this:
>
> (qemu) info migrate
> Status:                 active
> Time (ms):              total=12080, setup=14, exp_down=300
> Remaining:              1.36 GiB        <------------------- newline

"Newline" is ASCI character '\n'.  I guess you mean "this is the new
line".

> RAM info:
>   Throughput (Mbps):    840.50
>   Sizes:                pagesize=4 KiB, total=4.02 GiB
>   Transfers:            transferred=1.18 GiB, remain=1.36 GiB
>     Channels:           precopy=1.18 GiB, multifd=0 B, postcopy=0 B
>     Page Types:         normal=307923, zero=388148
>   Page Rates (pps):     transfer=25660
>   Others:               dirty_syncs=1
>
> It should be the same value as RAM's remaining report when VFIO is not
> involved, and it should report more than that when VFIO is involved.

"RAM's remaining report" is the "remain=1.36 GiB" part, isn't it?

> Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Juraj Marcin <jmarcin@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <dave@treblig.org>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> ---
>  qapi/migration.json            | 4 ++++
>  migration/migration-hmp-cmds.c | 5 +++++
>  migration/migration.c          | 7 +++++++
>  3 files changed, 16 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/qapi/migration.json b/qapi/migration.json
> index e3ad3f0604..a6e24b5685 100644
> --- a/qapi/migration.json
> +++ b/qapi/migration.json
> @@ -300,6 +300,9 @@
>  #     average memory load of the virtual CPU indirectly.  Note that
>  #     zero means guest doesn't dirty memory.  (Since 8.1)
>  #
> +# @remaining: amount of bytes remaining to be migrated system-wise,
> +#     includes both RAM and all devices (like VFIO).  (Since 11.1)
> +#
>  # Features:
>  #
>  # @unstable: Members @postcopy-latency, @postcopy-vcpu-latency,
> @@ -310,6 +313,7 @@
>  ##
>  { 'struct': 'MigrationInfo',
>    'data': {'*status': 'MigrationStatus', '*ram': 'MigrationRAMStats',
> +           '*remaining': 'uint64',

It's a byte count, so let's make it 'size'.

>             '*vfio': 'VfioStats',
>             '*xbzrle-cache': 'XBZRLECacheStats',
>             '*total-time': 'int',

[...]



  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-21 20:20 [PATCH v2 00/16] migration/vfio: Fix a few issues on API misuse or statistic reports Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:20 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] qemu-iotests: Add query-migrate test for dirty-bitmap Peter Xu
2026-04-22  8:08   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2026-04-24 14:50     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:20 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] migration: Fix low possibility downtime violation Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:20 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] migration/qapi: Rename MigrationStats to MigrationRAMStats Peter Xu
2026-04-24  9:03   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-04-21 20:20 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] vfio/migration: Cache stop size in VFIOMigration Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:20 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] migration/treewide: Merge @state_pending_{exact|estimate} APIs Peter Xu
2026-04-22  8:23   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2026-04-22  8:29   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2026-04-22 15:44     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-22 17:06       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] migration: Use the new save_query_pending() API directly Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] migration: Introduce stopcopy_bytes in save_query_pending() Peter Xu
2026-04-22 13:16   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-23 15:05   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] vfio/migration: Fix incorrect reporting for VFIO pending data Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] migration: Move iteration counter out of RAM Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] migration: Introduce a helper to return switchover bw estimate Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] migration: Calculate expected downtime on demand Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] migration: Fix calculation of expected_downtime to take VFIO info Peter Xu
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] migration: Remember total dirty bytes in mig_stats Peter Xu
2026-04-22 13:18   ` Juraj Marcin
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] migration/qapi: Introduce system-wise "remaining" reports Peter Xu
2026-04-24  7:17   ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2026-04-24 15:15     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-25  5:46       ` Markus Armbruster
2026-04-28 15:26         ` Peter Xu
2026-04-28 19:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] migration/qapi: Update unit for avail-switchover-bandwidth Peter Xu
2026-04-24  7:18   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-04-21 20:21 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] vfio/migration: Add tracepoints for precopy/stopcopy query ioctls Peter Xu
2026-04-22  7:51   ` Cédric Le Goater
2026-04-22  7:52   ` Cédric Le Goater
2026-04-22  9:56   ` Cédric Le Goater
2026-04-23 15:10   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-29 14:46   ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-29 15:43     ` Peter Xu
2026-04-29 18:03       ` Avihai Horon
2026-04-29 19:52 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] migration/vfio: Fix a few issues on API misuse or statistic reports Peter Xu

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