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I can make a guess as to what 'Loading Environment from >> nowhere' means. To me it suggests that it has not found anywhere >> additional to load an environment from. It is a bit awkwardly phrased >> but it can be understood and it at least sticks to reality. >> As for 'Loading Environment from a magic hat' - I have no idea what that >> is trying to convey and that lack of meaning is not, IMO, user-friendly. > > I have the same opinion as Andrew. Seconded. Or rather thirded [*]. If anything, the message could be changed to say "from default", "from built-in", "from build-time default" or something along those lines else that conveys the message that the environment comes from something defined at compile time. Rasmus [*] I was pleasantly surprised to see that that actually exists: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/third#Verb