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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: lvivier@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, aik@ozlabs.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	agraf@suse.de, abologna@redhat.com, bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QMP: add query-hotpluggable-cpus
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:53:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1rm1oc2.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160223104645.6b64f60c@nial.brq.redhat.com> (Igor Mammedov's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:46:45 +0100")

Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> writes:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:54:32 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
[...]
>> This is why Eduardo suggested - and I agreed - that it's probably
>> better to implement the "1st layer" as an internal structure/interface
>> only, and implement the 2nd layer on top of that.  When/if we need to
>> we can revisit a user-accessible interface to the 1st layer.
> We are going around QOM based CPU introspecting interface for
> years now and that's exactly what 2nd layer is, just another
> implementation. I've just lost hope in this approach.
>
> What I'm suggesting in this RFC is to forget controversial
> QOM approach for now and use -device/device_add + QMP introspection,
> i.e. completely split interface from how boards internally implement
> CPU hotplug.

QMP introspection doesn't tell you anything about device_add now.
Covering device_add is hard, because introspection data is fixed at
compile-time, but device models are collected only at run time.  Worse,
non-qdev QOM properties are buried in code, which you have to run to
find them.  See also my slide 39 of my KVM Form 2015 presentation
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/armbru-qemu-introspection.pdf

But perhaps you means something else.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-24  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-15 17:10 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QMP: add query-hotpluggable-cpus Igor Mammedov
2016-02-15 17:44 ` Eric Blake
2016-02-16  9:58   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-15 19:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-16  5:48   ` David Gibson
2016-02-16 10:52     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-18  4:05       ` David Gibson
2016-02-18 10:55         ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-24 11:26           ` David Gibson
2016-02-24 13:10             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-16 10:36   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-16 12:35     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-16 12:41       ` Andreas Färber
2016-02-16 12:58         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-18  3:52       ` David Gibson
2016-02-18  7:33         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-17 20:59     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-02-18  3:39     ` David Gibson
2016-02-18 10:37       ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-19  4:38         ` David Gibson
2016-02-19  9:51           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-19 16:11             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-22  2:32             ` David Gibson
2016-02-22  9:05               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-24  1:57                 ` David Gibson
2016-02-24  8:42                   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-24 10:51                     ` David Gibson
2016-02-24 11:03                       ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-25  1:03                         ` David Gibson
2016-02-25 10:22                           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-19 15:49           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-22  2:54             ` David Gibson
2016-02-23  9:46               ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-23 21:26                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-02-24  1:52                   ` David Gibson
2016-02-24 14:42                   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-25  1:05                     ` David Gibson
2016-02-25 17:52                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-02-29 15:42                       ` Igor Mammedov
2016-03-01  1:19                         ` David Gibson
2016-03-01 10:49                           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-03-01 18:17                             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-03-01 14:02                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-02-24  1:54                 ` David Gibson
2016-02-24 14:17                   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-25  1:25                     ` David Gibson
2016-02-25 12:43                       ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-26  4:12                         ` David Gibson
2016-02-26 10:37                           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-02-24  8:53                 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2016-02-24 11:31                   ` Igor Mammedov

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