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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Benoit Lourdelet <blourdel@juniper.net>,
	"netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] iproute: Faster ip link add, set and delete
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:00:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2uknmnu.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130328042808.GA11672@sergelap> (Serge Hallyn's message of "Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:28:08 -0500")

Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> writes:

> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
>> Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com):
>> >> Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > If you need to do lots of operations the --batch mode will be significantly faster.
>> >> > One command start and one link map.
>> >> 
>> >> The problem in this case as I understand it is lots of independent
>> >> operations. Now maybe lxc should not shell out to ip and perform the
>> >> work itself.
>> >
>> > fwiw lxc uses netlink to create new veths, and picks random names with
>> > mktemp() ahead of time.
>> 
>> I am puzzled where does the slownes in iproute2 come into play?
>
> Benoit originally reported slowness when starting >1500 containers.  I
> asked him to run a few manual tests to figure out what was taking the
> time.  Manually creating a large # of veths was an obvious test, and
> one which showed poorly scaling performance.

Apparently iproute is involved somehwere as when he tested with a
patched iproute (as you asked him to) the lxc startup slowdown was
gone.

> May well be there are other things slowing down lxc of course.

The evidence indicates it was iproute being called somewhere...


Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-28  5:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-22 22:23 [RFC][PATCH] iproute: Faster ip link add, set and delete Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-22 22:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-03-26 11:51   ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-26 12:40     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-26 14:17       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-26 14:33       ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-27 13:37         ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-27 15:11           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-27 17:47             ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-03-28  0:46               ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-28  3:20                 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-28  3:44                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-28  4:28                     ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-28  5:00                       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2013-03-28 13:36                         ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-28 13:42                           ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-28 15:04                             ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-28 15:21                               ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-28 22:20                                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-03-28 23:52                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-29  0:13                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-29  0:25                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-29  0:43                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-29  1:06                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-29  1:10                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-29  1:29                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-03-29  1:38                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-30 10:09                                     ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-30 14:44                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2013-03-30 16:07                                         ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-28 20:27             ` Benoit Lourdelet
2013-03-26 15:31     ` Eric Dumazet

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