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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>, Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 20:41:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2vkns4m.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130228193023.GA8090@srcf.ucam.org> (Matthew Garrett's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:30:23 +0000")

* Matthew Garrett:

>> Would it be possible to have a signed bootloader that allows booting
>> Win8 from within the secure environment, or it could exit the secure
>> environment and run unsigned grub?
>
> What would stop the unsigned grub from installing a firmware hook that 
> lies about whether or not Secure Boot is enabled, and then booting 
> Windows?

Windows would not have access to the product key because it is stored
in a variable without EFI_VARIABLE_RUNTIME_ACCESS, so WGA and other
checks will fail, and the user will notice.

(Not sure if it is implemented this way, my test machine lost the
firmware-embedded product key after the mainboard was replaced.)

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-28 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-21 15:47 [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries David Howells
2013-02-21 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 16:42   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 16:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 17:49       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:03         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:11           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-22 14:05           ` Peter Jones
2013-02-25 14:46             ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 15:50                 ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 16:14                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 16:20                     ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-26 21:40                       ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 22:19                         ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-21 18:17       ` David Howells
2013-02-21 18:25         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-25 14:33           ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 18:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 18:34           ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 18:56             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-21 19:10               ` Peter Jones
2013-02-21 19:10               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:31               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-21 20:32                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-21 20:38                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-03-18  2:12               ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-03-19 18:11                 ` David Howells
2013-03-20 16:52                   ` David Howells
2013-03-20 23:28                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-02-21 20:08         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-25 14:28     ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 15:45       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:08         ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-25 23:51       ` David Howells
2013-02-26  0:59         ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  2:33           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:02             ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  3:13               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:25                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26  3:28                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  3:42                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  3:48                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  4:57                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 15:30                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-26 15:38                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-02-27 17:23                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-26 21:30                               ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 21:40                                 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26 22:35                                   ` Al Viro
2013-02-26  3:40                     ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  3:45                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:49                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 19:30                     ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:41                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:31                 ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  3:38                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  3:54                     ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  4:04                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:13                         ` Greg KH
2013-02-26  4:23                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:43                             ` Linus Torvalds
2013-02-26  4:59                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 21:57                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-26 22:06                                 ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 12:32                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-27 12:43                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 14:14                                     ` Peter Jones
2013-02-26  4:25                           ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26  4:45                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26  4:55                               ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-26  6:04                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26  6:38                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 10:07                                     ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-26 10:21                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 16:45                                         ` Kent Yoder
2013-02-26 16:54                               ` Peter Jones
2013-02-27 15:24                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 17:36                                   ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 17:59                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:21                                       ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-27 19:34                                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-27 19:14                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-27 21:31                                   ` Dave Airlie
2013-02-28  6:27                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-02-28  7:48                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-26 19:40                               ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-26 19:46                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26  4:50                             ` Greg KH
2013-02-28  7:57                   ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 15:43                     ` Chris Friesen
2013-02-28 19:26                       ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 19:30                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 19:41                         ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2013-02-28 19:53                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 20:23                             ` Florian Weimer
2013-02-28 20:31                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-26 15:11           ` David Howells
2013-02-26 16:50             ` Greg KH
2013-02-26 13:34         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-26 14:16           ` Raymond Jennings
2013-02-27  9:35         ` ownssh
2013-02-27 10:17           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 11:27             ` Alexander Holler
2013-02-27 11:49               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2013-02-27 14:56           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-27 20:35             ` ownssh
2013-03-01 18:21               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01 18:39                 ` Gene Heskett
2013-02-28 22:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 22:51   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:02     ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:05       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:45         ` Jiri Kosina
2013-02-28 23:47           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-28 23:52             ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01  0:00               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-01  0:08                 ` Jiri Kosina
2013-03-01 10:00     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2013-03-01 14:30       ` Theodore Ts'o

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