From: Per Marker Mortensen <marker+lartc@anc.dk>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LARTC] Re: ADSL Calculator
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:15:40 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d5qls303.wl%per@markermortensen.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050617011135.GA9675@yamamaya.is-a-geek.org>
At Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:11:35 +0200,
Tobias Diedrich wrote:
Hi
> 1)
> I don't think the kernel patch is needed as you can fold that
> information into the rate table AFAICS (See the patch at the end
> of this mail). Then again, depending on the overhead value you'd
> of course have a slight inaccuracy (in case the overhead is not
> divisible by 2^cell_log). Thus in my patch I just assume the
> worst.
I do not remember the details (is my office mate's thesis and not
mine), but from what I remember it will actually more than slightly
inaccurate. The thing is that the rate table is off-by-one with
respect to 2^cell_log - see section 6.1.2 of the thesis.
If you use the patch in the thesis, the calculations will be 100%
accurate.
> 2)
> AFAICS you only looked at upstream shaping, right?
Its the focus of my office mates thesis, but there is also a chapter
that looks at posible downstream problems.
> At least from my experience I can say that for my ADSL link
> (3456kbit down / 448kbit up raw ATM speed, shared by 5 users)
> it is quite easy to saturate the downstream with a bittorrent
> download. So some sort of downstream shaping is needed too.
From what I have seen in different places it is actually normally not
a problem. But 4/8Mbps/768kbps ADSL's are also very common here i
DK. The problem always seem the be the upstream capacity and the
extreme usage P2P programs.
> Unfortunately the IMQ patch seems to panic the kernel when it
> starts dropping packets. I am currently using a shellscript
There is actually no need to use IMQ, or there are at least other
ways. Several places I have just setup the queue disciplines on the
interface towards the LAN. If you need communication between the LAN
and the router, you can make a special HTB leaf for that, and map
packages with iptables.
---
Yours
Per Marker Mortensen <per@markermortensen.dk>
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-17 1:11 [LARTC] Re: ADSL Calculator Tobias Diedrich
2005-06-17 10:15 ` Per Marker Mortensen [this message]
2005-06-17 10:45 ` Andy Furniss
2005-06-17 13:30 ` Ed W
2005-06-19 10:36 ` Andy Furniss
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