From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1pz-0002mC-Rx for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:42:51 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1pz-0002m7-1x for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:42:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1px-0002lu-Bi for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:42:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1px-0002lr-8z for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:42:49 -0400 Received: from [145.74.66.11] (helo=mail-cn.han.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg1ns-00025d-3I for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:40:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (charlie.han.nl [145.74.66.9]) by mail-cn.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3785AA for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:36:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-cn.han.nl ([145.74.66.11]) by localhost (charlie.han.nl [145.74.66.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03042-07 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail1.han.nl (mail1.han.nl [145.74.103.11]) by mail-cn.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1428593 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from marco.marco-g.com (a82-92-27-129.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.27.129]) by mail1.han.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70E1C046 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Mail-Copies-To: metgerards@student.han.nl To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <200406281125.03655.okuji@enbug.org> <87fz8ezjo9.fsf@marco.marco-g.com> <200407011332.42252.okuji@enbug.org> From: Marco Gerards Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:36:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200407011332.42252.okuji@enbug.org> (Yoshinori K. Okuji's message of "Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:32:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87d63falyb.fsf@marco.marco-g.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new@vscan-cn.han.nl Subject: Re: calling UNDI API X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:42:51 -0000 "Yoshinori K. Okuji" writes: > If you look at the header file include/grub/net.h, you can see what I > had in my mind. Basically, network devices should provide a generic > interface to network protocols. Ok. >> How will we support the other cards? By using etherboot (or whatever >> it was used in GRUB Legacy)? What I would prefer is to have our own >> TCP/IP stack that is platform independent. > GRUB doesn't assume that hardware interrupts occur during normal > execution, since this makes the implementation very complex, due to > the switch between real mode and protected mode on i386. So I prefer > the polling approach to the interruption-based approach. For this, > Etherboot fits gracefully. Ok, I agree. > If my understanding is correct, Etherboot is now being ported to other > architectures, although it was only for i386 like GRUB Legacy. This > looks very interesting to us. i did not know that. Interesting indeed. > BTW, do you really need TCP in GRUB? I know some people want to use TCP > protocols for netboot, such as HTTP and FTP. But I feel this is > overkill. If you need only UDP, it's quite easy to implement. You can > just copy the code from GRUB Legacy with a few modifications for > portability. No, I just said TCP/IP because I am used to it and it is the name of the protocol, I did not mean TCP specifically. But I know a lot of people would like TCP support. It is at least an option that should be left open, IMHO. Thanks, Marco