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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
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	ast@kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
	memxor@gmail.com, zhenglifeng1@huawei.com,
	xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com, joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 01/12] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 22:33:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ecmi5zn4.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260214113122.70627a8b@pumpkin>


David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 20:58:08 -0800
> Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com> writes:
> ...
>> > Plus the cost of evaluating cond_expr 200 times.
>> > I guess that isn't expected to contain a PCIe read :-)
>>
>> :). Good point. I'll see if I can add something like "when polling on
>> a memory address".
>
> I've only timed PCIe reads into an fpga (Cyclone V) target, but those
> are about 1 micro-second - which is a lot of clocks.
> Hard logic will be somewhat faster - but still slow.

Yeah that would be a lot of clocks.

> There might be other places where 200 isn't a good value.
> Perhaps add an extra #define that drops in the loop count?

In principle that makes sense. However, if we add a variant like this
where the user specifies their own value of loop count:

#define __smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout(ptr, cond_expr,
                                        time_expr_ns, timeout_ns, loop_count)

that means that the user needs to define a sane loop count value for all
platforms where it might get called. That just seems to shift the problem
to the callers.

--
ankur

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-18  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-09  2:31 [PATCH v9 00/12] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_{relaxed,acquire}_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  4:57   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-02-10  5:52     ` Ankur Arora
2026-02-11 15:39   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-11 22:17     ` Ankur Arora
2026-02-12  9:56   ` David Laight
2026-02-14  4:58     ` Ankur Arora
2026-02-14 11:31       ` David Laight
2026-02-18  6:33         ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] arm64: barrier: Support smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-11 15:54   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-11 22:57     ` Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] arm64/delay: move some constants out to a separate header Ankur Arora
2026-02-11 16:01   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] arm64: support WFET in smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-11 17:11   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-11 23:13     ` Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  4:59   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] atomic: Add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-11 17:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] locking/atomic: scripts: build atomic_long_cond_read_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-11 17:41   ` Catalin Marinas
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] bpf/rqspinlock: switch check_timeout() to a clock interface Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  3:05   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] bpf/rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] sched: add need-resched timed wait interface Ankur Arora
2026-02-09  3:05   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-09  2:31 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] cpuidle/poll_state: Wait for need-resched via tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait() Ankur Arora
2026-02-10 16:55   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-11  0:29     ` Ankur Arora

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