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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Gustavo Romero" <gustavo.romero@linaro.org>,
	"Pierrick Bouvier" <pierrick.bouvier@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] util/error.c: Print backtrace on error
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2025 07:23:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ectnr9gp.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAjaMXY1ytnhp+APdwM39-K=Mu=5p8W=MEUVvLers3M=rLS6Qw@mail.gmail.com> (Manos Pitsidianakis's message of "Tue, 5 Aug 2025 19:22:14 +0300")

Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org> writes:

> On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:00 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 12:19:26PM +0300, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>> > Add a backtrace_on_error meson feature (enabled with
>> > --enable-backtrace-on-error) that compiles system binaries with
>> > -rdynamic option and prints a function backtrace on error to stderr.
>> >
>> > Example output by adding an unconditional error_setg on error_abort in hw/arm/boot.c:
>> >
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(+0x13b4a2c) [0x55d015406a2c]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(+0x13b4abd) [0x55d015406abd]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(+0x13b4d49) [0x55d015406d49]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(error_setg_internal+0xe7) [0x55d015406f62]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(arm_load_dtb+0xbf) [0x55d014d7686f]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(+0xd2f1d8) [0x55d014d811d8]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(notifier_list_notify+0x44) [0x55d01540a282]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(qdev_machine_creation_done+0xa0) [0x55d01476ae17]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(+0xaa691e) [0x55d014af891e]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(qmp_x_exit_preconfig+0x72) [0x55d014af8a5d]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(qemu_init+0x2a89) [0x55d014afb657]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(main+0x2f) [0x55d01521e836]
>> >   /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(+0x29ca8) [0x7f3033d67ca8]
>> >   /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x85) [0x7f3033d67d65]
>> >   ./qemu-system-aarch64(_start+0x21) [0x55d0146814f1]
>> >
>> >   Unexpected error in arm_load_dtb() at ../hw/arm/boot.c:529:
>>
>> From an end-user POV, IMHO the error messages need to be good enough
>> that such backtraces aren't needed to understand the problem. For
>> developers, GDB can give much better backtraces (file+line numbers,
>> plus parameters plus local variables) in the ideally rare cases that
>> the error message alone has insufficient info. So I'm not really
>> convinced that programs (in general, not just QEMU) should try to
>> create backtraces themselves.
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I don't think there's value in replacing gdb debugging with this, I
> agree. I think it has value for "fire and forget" uses, when errors
> happen unexpectedly and are hard to replicate and you only end up with
> log entries and no easy way to debug it.

Enable core dumps.  I doubt that's harder than recompiling and
redeploying QEMU with backtraces enabled.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-07  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05  9:19 [PATCH RFC] util/error.c: Print backtrace on error Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-05 15:59 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-05 16:22   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-05 16:48     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-05 16:57       ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-05 18:00         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-06 11:11           ` Alex Bennée
2025-08-06 11:34             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-06 20:26               ` Pierrick Bouvier
2025-08-07  5:41                 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-08-18 16:49                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-18 16:52               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-08-07  5:23     ` Markus Armbruster [this message]

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