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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org
Cc: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, magnus.karlsson@gmail.com,
	magnus.karlsson@intel.com, jonathan.lemon@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 2/4] bpf: introduce BPF dispatcher
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:09:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeyaob8a.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7893c97d-3d3f-35cc-4ea0-ac34d3d84dbc@iogearbox.net>

Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net> writes:

> On 11/14/19 1:31 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@gmail.com> writes:
>>> From: Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@intel.com>
>>>
>>> The BPF dispatcher builds on top of the BPF trampoline ideas;
>>> Introduce bpf_arch_text_poke() and (re-)use the BPF JIT generate
>>> code. The dispatcher builds a dispatch table for XDP programs, for
>>> retpoline avoidance. The table is a simple binary search model, so
>>> lookup is O(log n). Here, the dispatch table is limited to four
>>> entries (for laziness reason -- only 1B relative jumps :-P). If the
>>> dispatch table is full, it will fallback to the retpoline path.
>> 
>> So it's O(log n) with n == 4? Have you compared the performance of just
>> doing four linear compare-and-jumps? Seems to me it may not be that big
>> of a difference for such a small N?
>
> Did you perform some microbenchmarks wrt search tree? Mainly wondering
> since for code emission for switch/case statements, clang/gcc turns off
> indirect calls entirely under retpoline, see [0] from back then.

Yes, this was exactly the example I had in mind :)

>>> An example: A module/driver allocates a dispatcher. The dispatcher is
>>> shared for all netdevs. Each netdev allocate a slot in the dispatcher
>>> and a BPF program. The netdev then uses the dispatcher to call the
>>> correct program with a direct call (actually a tail-call).
>> 
>> Is it really accurate to call it a tail call? To me, that would imply
>> that it increments the tail call limit counter and all that? Isn't this
>> just a direct jump using the trampoline stuff?
>
> Not meant in BPF context here, but more general [1].

Ah, right, that makes more sense.

> (For actual BPF tail calls I have a series close to ready for getting
> rid of most indirect calls which I'll post later today.)

Cool!

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-14 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-13 20:47 [RFC PATCH bpf-next 0/4] Introduce xdp_call.h and the BPF dispatcher Björn Töpel
2019-11-13 20:47 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 1/4] bpf: teach bpf_arch_text_poke() jumps Björn Töpel
2019-11-13 20:47 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 2/4] bpf: introduce BPF dispatcher Björn Töpel
2019-11-13 21:40   ` Edward Cree
2019-11-14  6:29     ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-14 10:18       ` Edward Cree
2019-11-14 11:21         ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-14 13:58           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 12:31   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-14 13:03     ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-11-14 13:09       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-11-14 13:56       ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-14 14:55         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-14 15:03           ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-14 15:12             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-15  0:30   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-15  7:56     ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-15 21:58       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-18 10:03         ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-18 19:36   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-11-18 20:11     ` Björn Töpel
2019-11-13 20:47 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 3/4] xdp: introduce xdp_call Björn Töpel
2019-11-13 20:47 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 4/4] i40e: start using xdp_call.h Björn Töpel

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