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From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: "Cheng, Tony" <tony.cheng@amd.com>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, John <John.Bridgman@amd.com>
Cc: "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	"Grodzovsky, Andrey" <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>,
	amd-gfx mailing list <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Using DC in amdgpu for upcoming GPU
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:57:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eg1asuia.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fcd4fc6-970c-da48-f790-e927c79cca26@amd.com>

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, "Cheng, Tony" <tony.cheng@amd.com> wrote:
> I am struggling with that these comminty contributions to DC would be.
>
> Us AMD developer has access to HW docs and designer and we are still 
> spending 50% of our time figuring out why our HW doesn't work right. I 
> can't image community doing much of this heavy lifting.

I can sympathize with that view, and certainly most of the heavy lifting
would come from you, same as with us and i915. However, when you put
together your hardware, an open source driver, and smart people, they
*will* scratch their itches, whether they're bugs you're not fixing or
features you're missing. Please don't underestimate and patronize them,
it's going to rub people the wrong way.

> Dave sent us series of patch to show how it would look like if someone 
> were to change DC.  These changes are more removing code that DRM 
> already has and deleting/clean up stuff.  I guess we can nak all changes 
> and "rewrite" our own version of clean up patch community want to see?

Please have a look at, say,

$ git shortlog -sne --since @{1year} -- drivers/gpu/drm/amd | grep -v amd\.com

Do you really want to actively discourage all of them from contributing?
I think this would be detrimental to not only your driver, but the whole
drm community. It feels like you'd like to have your code upstream, but
still retain ownership as if it was in your internal repo. You can't
have your cake and eat it too.


BR,
Jani.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-14  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-08  2:02 [RFC] Using DC in amdgpu for upcoming GPU Harry Wentland
2016-12-08  9:59 ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]   ` <20161208095952.hnbfs4b3nac7faap-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 14:33     ` Harry Wentland
2016-12-08 15:34       ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]         ` <20161208153417.yrpbhmot5gfv37lo-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 15:41           ` Christian König
2016-12-08 15:46             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 20:24             ` Matthew Macy
2016-12-08 17:40           ` Alex Deucher
2016-12-08 20:07     ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]       ` <CAPM=9tw=OLirgVU1RVxfPZ1PV64qtjOPTJ2q540=9VJhF4o2RQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 23:29         ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]           ` <CAPM=9tzqaSR3dUBV9RUmo-kQZ8VmNP=rdgiHwOBii=7A2X0Dew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 17:26             ` Cheng, Tony
2016-12-09 19:59               ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                 ` <CAKMK7uGDUBHZKNEZTdOi2_66vKZmCsc+ViM0UyTdRPfnYa-Zww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 20:34                   ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 20:38                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-10  0:29                     ` Matthew Macy
2016-12-11 12:34                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 17:56           ` Cheng, Tony
2016-12-09 17:32         ` Deucher, Alexander
     [not found]           ` <MWHPR12MB169473F270C372CE90D3A254F7870-Gy0DoCVfaSW4WA4dJ5YXGAdYzm3356FpvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 20:30             ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]               ` <CAPM=9tw4U6Ps1KgTpn-Sq2esfqkmDCPvpoRXnJB-X6pwjbBmTw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-11  0:36                 ` Alex Deucher
2016-12-09 20:31           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-11 20:28 ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]   ` <20161211202827.cif3jnbuouay6xyz-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13  2:33     ` Harry Wentland
     [not found]       ` <b64d0072-4909-c680-2f09-adae9f856642-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13  4:10         ` Cheng, Tony
2016-12-13  7:50           ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]           ` <3219f6f2-080e-0c77-45bb-cf59aa5b5858-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13  7:30             ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-13  9:14               ` Cheng, Tony
2016-12-13 14:59             ` Rob Clark
2016-12-13  7:31         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-13 10:09         ` Ernst Sjöstrand
     [not found] ` <55d5e664-25f7-70e0-f2f5-9c9daf3efdf6-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12  2:57   ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]     ` <CAPM=9tx+j9-3fZNY=peLjdsVqyLS6i3V-sV3XrnYsK2YuhWRBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12  3:21       ` Bridgman, John
2016-12-12  3:23         ` Bridgman, John
     [not found]           ` <BN6PR12MB13484A1D247707C399180266E8980-/b2+HYfkarQX0pEhCR5T8QdYzm3356FpvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12  3:43             ` Bridgman, John
2016-12-12  4:05               ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-13  1:49       ` Harry Wentland
     [not found]         ` <634f5374-027a-6ec9-41a5-64351c4f7eac-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 12:22           ` Daniel Stone
2016-12-13 12:59             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]               ` <20161213125953.zczaojxp37yg6a6f-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14  1:50                 ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]                   ` <afa3fdb6-1bb4-976e-d14f-b04ab8243819-otUistvHUpPR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 15:46                     ` Harry Wentland
     [not found]             ` <CAPj87rNrwsfAR75138WDQPbti_BmS_D-NxESZ075obcjO3T04g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 16:35               ` Alex Deucher
2016-12-12  7:09     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-13  2:52     ` Cheng, Tony
     [not found]       ` <5a1f2762-f1e0-05f1-3c16-173cb1f46571-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13  7:09         ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-13  9:40       ` Lukas Wunner
     [not found]         ` <20161213094035.GA10916-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 15:03           ` Cheng, Tony
2016-12-13 15:09             ` Deucher, Alexander
2016-12-13 15:57             ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-14  9:57             ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2016-12-14 17:23               ` Cheng, Tony
     [not found]                 ` <d68102d4-b99c-cc60-4eb2-9c6295af130f-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 18:01                   ` Alex Deucher
     [not found]                     ` <CADnq5_Nha9502S=DOJDNepNv9CBV88=0R6N+tpBuO+U+s1eUQA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 18:16                       ` Cheng, Tony
2016-12-13 16:14           ` Bridgman, John
2016-12-12  7:22 ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]   ` <20161212072243.ah6sy3q57z4gimka-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12  7:54     ` Bridgman, John
     [not found]       ` <BN6PR12MB13484DA35697DBD0CA815CFFE8980-/b2+HYfkarQX0pEhCR5T8QdYzm3356FpvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12  9:27         ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]           ` <20161212092727.6jgsgzlrdsha6zsl-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12  9:29             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-12 15:28           ` Deucher, Alexander
     [not found]             ` <MWHPR12MB1694EE6082AE9315EF5E6C68F7980-Gy0DoCVfaSW4WA4dJ5YXGAdYzm3356FpvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12 16:06               ` Luke A. Guest
2016-12-12 16:17               ` Luke A. Guest
     [not found]                 ` <584ECD8B.8000509-z/KZkw/0wg5BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-12 16:44                   ` Deucher, Alexander
2016-12-13  2:05     ` Harry Wentland
     [not found]       ` <2032d12b-f675-eb25-33bf-3aa0fcd20cb3-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13  8:33         ` Daniel Vetter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-12-09 16:32 Jan Ziak
2016-12-13  7:31 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-15 15:48 Kevin Brace

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