From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using PCI config space to indicate config location
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:13:25 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehl596tu.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121010134157.GA7922@redhat.com>
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:36:12AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> writes:
>>
>> > Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> writes:
>> >> So how about this:
>> >>
>> >> (1) Add a vendor specific pci capability for new-style virtio.
>> >> Specifies the pci bar used for new-style virtio registers.
>> >> Guests can use it to figure whenever new-style virtio is
>> >> supported and to map the correct bar (which will probably
>> >> be bar 1 in most cases).
>> >
>> > This was closer to the original proposal[1], which I really liked (you
>> > can layout bars however you want). Anthony thought that vendor
>> > capabilities were a PCI-e feature, but it seems they're blessed in PCI
>> > 2.3.
>>
>> 2.3 was standardized in 2002. Are we confident that vendor extensions
>> play nice with pre-2.3 OSes like Win2k, WinXP, etc?
2.2 (1998) had the capability IDs linked list, indicated by bit 4 in the
status register, but reserved ids 7 and above. ID 9 (vendor specific)
was added in 2.3; it should be ignored, but will require testing of
course, like any change.
2.1 didn't have the capability ID linked list at all; bit 4 in the
status register was reserved.
QEMU's pci.c has capability support, and sets the capabiliy status bit
and list pointer when the driver requests (eg. the eepro100).
> Pre 2.3 it was the case that *all* space outside
> the capability linked list, and any capability not
> recognized by space, was considered vendor specific.
> So there's no problem really.
Oh in theory, sure. In practice, almost certainly. But this needs to
be proved with actual testing.
Cheers,
Rusty.
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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Using PCI config space to indicate config location
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:13:25 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehl596tu.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121010134157.GA7922@redhat.com>
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:36:12AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> writes:
>>
>> > Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> writes:
>> >> So how about this:
>> >>
>> >> (1) Add a vendor specific pci capability for new-style virtio.
>> >> Specifies the pci bar used for new-style virtio registers.
>> >> Guests can use it to figure whenever new-style virtio is
>> >> supported and to map the correct bar (which will probably
>> >> be bar 1 in most cases).
>> >
>> > This was closer to the original proposal[1], which I really liked (you
>> > can layout bars however you want). Anthony thought that vendor
>> > capabilities were a PCI-e feature, but it seems they're blessed in PCI
>> > 2.3.
>>
>> 2.3 was standardized in 2002. Are we confident that vendor extensions
>> play nice with pre-2.3 OSes like Win2k, WinXP, etc?
2.2 (1998) had the capability IDs linked list, indicated by bit 4 in the
status register, but reserved ids 7 and above. ID 9 (vendor specific)
was added in 2.3; it should be ignored, but will require testing of
course, like any change.
2.1 didn't have the capability ID linked list at all; bit 4 in the
status register was reserved.
QEMU's pci.c has capability support, and sets the capabiliy status bit
and list pointer when the driver requests (eg. the eepro100).
> Pre 2.3 it was the case that *all* space outside
> the capability linked list, and any capability not
> recognized by space, was considered vendor specific.
> So there's no problem really.
Oh in theory, sure. In practice, almost certainly. But this needs to
be proved with actual testing.
Cheers,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-11 0:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-27 0:29 Proposal for virtio standardization Rusty Russell
2012-09-27 0:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-09-27 0:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 18:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2012-10-04 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-04 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 2:21 ` Using PCI config space to indicate config location Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 2:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 14:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 14:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 20:13 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 20:13 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-08 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 20:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-08 23:56 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 1:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 3:16 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 3:16 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 11:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-09 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-10-09 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-10-09 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 3:44 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 3:16 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 6:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-09 6:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-09 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 15:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 20:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-09 20:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2012-10-10 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 2:54 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 13:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 13:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 0:43 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2012-10-11 0:43 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 0:43 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 8:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-10 8:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 1:18 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 1:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 10:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-11 22:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 22:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 9:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-12 9:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-12 9:51 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-12 10:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-12 10:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:15 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:15 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-10-16 13:52 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-16 13:52 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-11 22:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-08 2:21 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 14:02 ` Proposal for virtio standardization Cornelia Huck
2012-10-09 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2012-10-10 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 3:46 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-10 3:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2012-10-09 14:02 ` Cornelia Huck
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