From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: "Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [patch 09/24] timekeeping: Add CLOCK_AUX support for ktime_get_snapshot_id()
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 17:17:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fr29ib4v.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260626125819-d8b197fc-7671-4d12-a578-9025affc52d9@linutronix.de>
On Fri, Jun 26 2026 at 13:03, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 12:49:41PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 26 2026 at 10:48, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
>> > On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 07:14:13PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> > (...)
>> >
>> >> static inline void tk_update_aux_offs(struct timekeeper *tk, ktime_t offs)
>> >> @@ -1218,6 +1223,12 @@ bool ktime_get_snapshot_id(struct system
>> >> tkd = &tk_core;
>> >> offs = &tk_core.timekeeper.offs_boot;
>> >> break;
>> >> + case CLOCK_AUX ... CLOCK_AUX_LAST:
>> >> + tkd = aux_get_tk_data(clock_id);
>> >> + if (!tkd)
>> >> + return false;
>> >> + offs = &tkd->timekeeper.offs_aux;
>> >> + break;
>> >
>> > 'tkd' is also used to compute 'monoraw'. However 'tkr_raw' and 'tkr_mono'
>> > are the same for auxilary clocks, so this will compute a wrong 'monoraw'.
>>
>> AUX clocks are independent in the first place and the MONORAW part is
>> the "MONORAW" related to the AUX clock itself.
>>
>> > Instead 'monoraw' should be computed based on 'tk_core'.
>> > Which then also requires the sequence locking of 'tk_core'.
>>
>> No. From a PTP and steering point of view you want the "raw" value which
>> is related to the AUX clock itself and not the global one.
>
> Ack.
>
> However the kdocs call it 'CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW'. Can we clean this up?
Yes. Something like the below?
Thanks,
tglx
---
--- a/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
+++ b/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
@@ -1202,10 +1202,21 @@ static inline u64 tk_clock_read_snapshot
/**
* ktime_get_snapshot_id - Simultaneously snapshot a given clock ID with
- * CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW and the underlying
+ * the corresponding monotonic raw the underlying
* clocksource counter value.
* @clock_id: The clock ID to snapshot
* @systime_snapshot: Pointer to struct receiving the system time snapshot
+ *
+ * For the system time keeping clocks (REALTIME, MONOTONIC and BOOTTIME) the
+ * monotonic raw clock is CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW. For AUX clocks this is the
+ * monotonic raw clock related to the AUX clock. These AUX clock related
+ * monotonic raw clocks have a strict linear offset to the system time
+ * CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW:
+ *
+ * MONOTONIC_RAW(AUX$N) = CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW(system) + offset(AUX$N)
+ *
+ * The offset is established when a AUX clock is initialized, but it is
+ * currently not accessible.
*/
void ktime_get_snapshot_id(clockid_t clock_id, struct system_time_snapshot *systime_snapshot)
{
@@ -1512,6 +1523,9 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(ktime_real_to_base_clo
* @xtstamp: Receives simultaneously captured system and device time
*
* Reads a timestamp from a device and correlates it to system time
+ *
+ * See documentation for ktime_get_snapshot_id() for information about the raw
+ * monotonic time stamp which is used here.
*/
int get_device_system_crosststamp(int (*get_time_fn)
(ktime_t *device_time,
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-26 15:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-26 17:13 [patch 00/24] timekeeping/ptp: Expand snapshot functionality Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 17:13 ` [patch 01/24] timekeeping: Provide ktime_get_snapshot_id() Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 21:41 ` Jacob Keller
2026-05-27 15:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:39 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 6:56 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:13 ` [patch 02/24] timekeeping: Use system_time_snapshot::sys instead of ::real Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:40 ` [PATCH 2/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 6:58 ` [patch 02/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:13 ` [patch 03/24] pps: generators: Use ktime_get_real_ts64() instead of ktime_get_snapshot() Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:42 ` [PATCH 3/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:00 ` [patch 03/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:13 ` [patch 04/24] pps: Convert to ktime_get_snapshot_id() Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:42 ` [PATCH 4/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:02 ` [patch 04/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-27 16:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 17:13 ` [patch 05/24] KVM: arm64: Use ktime_get_snapshot_id() to retrieve CLOCK_BOOTTIME Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:42 ` [PATCH 5/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:02 ` [patch 05/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-27 9:02 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-27 16:28 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-05-26 17:13 ` [patch 06/24] KVM: arm64: Use ktime_get_snapshot_id() to snapshot CLOCK_REALTIME Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:43 ` [PATCH 6/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:03 ` [patch 06/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-27 9:03 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 07/24] ptp: ptp_vmclock: Convert to ktime_get_snapshot_id() Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:43 ` [PATCH 7/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:10 ` [patch 07/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 08/24] timekeeping: Remove system_time_snapshot::real/boot Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 21:49 ` Jacob Keller
2026-05-26 21:52 ` Jacob Keller
2026-05-26 23:44 ` [PATCH 8/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:17 ` [patch 08/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 09/24] timekeeping: Add CLOCK_AUX support for ktime_get_snapshot_id() Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:44 ` [PATCH 9/24] " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:18 ` [patch 09/24] " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-06-26 8:48 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-06-26 10:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-26 11:03 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-06-26 15:17 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-06-26 10:51 ` David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 10/24] timekeeping: Add system_counterval_t to struct system_device_crosststamp Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:45 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 11/24] timekeeping: Add CLOCK ID to system_device_crosststamp Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:46 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 12/24] wifi: iwlwifi: Adopt PTP cross timestamps to core changes Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:47 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 13/24] ice/ptp: Use provided clock ID for history snapshot Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 21:51 ` Jacob Keller
2026-05-26 23:49 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 14/24] igc: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 21:51 ` Jacob Keller
2026-05-26 23:50 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 15/24] net/mlx5: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:51 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 16/24] virtio_rtc: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:51 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 17/24] timekeeping: Remove ktime_get_snapshot() Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:52 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:20 ` [patch " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:14 ` [patch 18/24] timekeeping: Prepare for cross timestamps on arbitrary clock IDs Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:54 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:23 ` [patch " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:15 ` [patch 19/24] ptp: Use system_device_crosststamp::sys_systime Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:54 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:15 ` [patch 20/24] wifi: iwlwifi: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:55 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:15 ` [patch 21/24] ALSA: hda/common: " Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:55 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-26 17:15 ` [patch 22/24] timekeeping: Remove system_device_crosststamp::sys_realtime Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:56 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:24 ` [patch " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:15 ` [patch 23/24] timekeeping: Add support for AUX clock cross timestamping Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:56 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 7:24 ` [patch " Thomas Weißschuh
2026-05-26 17:15 ` [patch 24/24] ptp: Switch to ktime_get_snapshot_id() for pre/post timestamps Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 23:57 ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2026-05-27 13:10 ` [patch " Vadim Fedorenko
2026-05-27 23:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 13:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-05-26 21:56 ` [patch 00/24] timekeeping/ptp: Expand snapshot functionality Jacob Keller
2026-05-27 3:55 ` [PATCH 0/24] " Arthur Kiyanovski
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