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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 11/14] x86: add support for Dynamic Kernel Stacks
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 00:33:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frwwpcm1.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bA22AP2jrbHjdN8nYFbYX2xJXQt+=4G3Rjw_Lyn5NOyKA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 11 2024 at 19:10, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 6:17 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>> Also, I think the whole memory allocation concept in this whole
>> series is a bit odd.  Fundamentally, we *can't* block on these stack
>> faults -- we may be in a context where blocking will deadlock.  We
>> may be in the page allocator.  Panicing due to kernel stack
>> allocation would be very unpleasant.
>
> We never block during handling stack faults. There's a per-CPU page
> pool, guaranteeing availability for the faulting thread. The thread
> simply takes pages from this per-CPU data structure and refills the
> pool when leaving the CPU. The faulting routine is efficient,
> requiring a fixed number of loads without any locks, stalling, or even
> cmpxchg operations.

Is this true for any context including nested exceptions and #NMI?

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-11 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-11 16:46 [RFC 00/14] Dynamic Kernel Stacks Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 01/14] task_stack.h: remove obsolete __HAVE_ARCH_KSTACK_END check Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:36   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 02/14] fork: Clean-up ifdef logic around stack allocation Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 03/14] fork: Clean-up naming of vm_strack/vm_struct variables in vmap stacks code Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:42   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-19 16:32     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 04/14] fork: Remove assumption that vm_area->nr_pages equals to THREAD_SIZE Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:45   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:14     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 05/14] fork: check charging success before zeroing stack Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12 15:57   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-12 16:52     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 06/14] fork: zero vmap stack using clear_page() instead of memset() Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12  7:15   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-03-12 16:53     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14  7:55       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-14 13:52         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:48   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:15     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 07/14] fork: use the first page in stack to store vm_stack in cached_stacks Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 08/14] fork: separate vmap stack alloction and free calls Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 15:18   ` Jeff Xie
2024-03-14 17:14     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:51   ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-03-17 15:15     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 09/14] mm/vmalloc: Add a get_vm_area_node() and vmap_pages_range_noflush() public functions Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 10/14] fork: Dynamic Kernel Stacks Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 19:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2024-03-11 19:55     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 11/14] x86: add support for " Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 22:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-11 23:10     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 23:33       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2024-03-11 23:34       ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-12  0:08         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12  0:23           ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 23:34     ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-11 23:41       ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-11 23:56         ` Nadav Amit
2024-03-12  0:02           ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-12  7:20             ` Nadav Amit
2024-03-12  0:53           ` Dave Hansen
2024-03-12  1:25             ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-12  2:16               ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-03-12  2:20                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-12 21:58   ` Andi Kleen
2024-03-13 10:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-13 13:43     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-13 15:28       ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-13 16:12         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-14 14:03           ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 18:26             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 12/14] task_stack.h: Clean-up stack_not_used() implementation Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 13/14] task_stack.h: Add stack_not_used() support for dynamic stack Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 16:46 ` [RFC 14/14] fork: Dynamic Kernel Stack accounting Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 17:09 ` [RFC 00/14] Dynamic Kernel Stacks Mateusz Guzik
2024-03-11 18:58   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-11 19:21     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-03-11 19:55       ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12 17:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-12 19:45   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-12 21:36     ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-14 19:05       ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-14 19:23         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 19:28           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-14 19:34             ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-14 19:49               ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-12 22:18     ` David Laight
2024-03-14 19:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-14 19:53     ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-14 19:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-14 19:58         ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-15  3:13         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-15  3:39           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-16 19:17             ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17  0:41               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-17  1:32                 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-03-17 14:19                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 14:43               ` Brian Gerst
2024-03-17 16:15                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 21:30                   ` Brian Gerst
2024-03-18 14:59                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 21:02                       ` Brian Gerst
2024-03-19 14:56                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-17 18:57               ` David Laight
2024-03-18 15:09                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:13                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:19                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-18 15:30                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:53                       ` David Laight
2024-03-18 16:57                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 15:38               ` David Laight
2024-03-18 17:00                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-18 17:37                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2024-03-15  4:17           ` H. Peter Anvin
2024-03-17  0:47     ` H. Peter Anvin

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