From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com,
jasowang@redhat.com, davem@davemloft.net, jbrouer@redhat.com,
mst@redhat.com, toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
john.fastabend@gmail.com, ast@kernel.org, kafai@fb.com,
songliubraving@fb.com, yhs@fb.com, andriin@fb.com,
David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 03/12] net: Add IFLA_XDP_EGRESS for XDP programs in the egress path
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2020 17:24:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftfue0mw.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200128055752.617aebc7@cakuba>
[ skipping the first part to just comment on the below: ]
> I'm weary of partially implemented XDP features, EGRESS prog does us
> no good when most drivers didn't yet catch up with the REDIRECTs.
I kinda agree with this; but on the other hand, if we have to wait for
all drivers to catch up, that would mean we couldn't add *anything* new
that requires driver changes, which is not ideal either :/
> And we're adding this before we considered the queuing problem.
>
> But if I'm alone in thinking this, and I'm not convincing anyone we
> can move on :)
I do share your concern that this will end up being incompatible with
whatever solution we end up with for queueing. However, I don't
necessarily think it will: I view the XDP egress hook as something that
in any case will run *after* packets are dequeued from whichever
intermediate queueing it has been through (if any). I think such a hook
is missing in any case; for instance, it's currently impossible to
implement something like CoDel (which needs to know how long a packet
spent in the queue) in eBPF.
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-01 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-23 1:41 [PATCH bpf-next 00/12] Add support for XDP in egress path David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:41 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/12] net: Add new XDP setup and query commands David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/12] net: Add BPF_XDP_EGRESS as a bpf_attach_type David Ahern
2020-01-23 11:34 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-01-23 21:32 ` David Ahern
2020-01-24 9:49 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-01-24 7:33 ` Martin Lau
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/12] net: Add IFLA_XDP_EGRESS for XDP programs in the egress path David Ahern
2020-01-23 11:35 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-01-23 21:33 ` David Ahern
2020-01-24 15:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-01-24 15:36 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-01-26 1:43 ` David Ahern
2020-01-26 4:54 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-02 17:59 ` David Ahern
2020-01-26 12:49 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-01-26 16:38 ` David Ahern
2020-01-26 22:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-01-28 14:13 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-01-30 14:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-01 16:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-02 17:48 ` David Ahern
2020-01-26 22:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-01-27 4:03 ` David Ahern
2020-01-27 14:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-01-28 3:43 ` David Ahern
2020-01-28 13:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-01 16:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-02-01 17:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-01 20:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-02 4:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-03 19:56 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-03 20:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-03 22:15 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-04 11:00 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-04 17:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-05 15:30 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-02 17:45 ` David Ahern
2020-02-02 19:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-02 17:43 ` David Ahern
2020-02-02 19:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-02 21:51 ` David Ahern
2020-02-01 15:59 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-02 17:54 ` David Ahern
2020-02-03 20:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/12] net: core: rename netif_receive_generic_xdp() to do_generic_xdp_core() David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/12] tuntap: check tun_msg_ctl type at necessary places David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/12] tun: move shared functions to if_tun.h David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/12] vhost_net: user tap recvmsg api to access ptr ring David Ahern
2020-01-23 8:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/12] tuntap: remove usage of ptr ring in vhost_net David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/12] tun: set egress XDP program David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/12] tun: run XDP program in tx path David Ahern
2020-01-23 8:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-24 13:36 ` Prashant Bhole
2020-01-24 13:44 ` Prashant Bhole
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 11/12] libbpf: Add egress XDP support David Ahern
2020-01-23 1:42 ` [PATCH bpf-next 12/12] samples/bpf: xdp1, add " David Ahern
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