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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Robert Richter <rrichter@marvell.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] watchdog: Fix possible soft lockup warning at bootup
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:10:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftgffc9z.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ae2ee4d-7b67-50ff-e736-1d51753c5ccd@redhat.com>

Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> writes:

> On 1/16/20 11:57 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> So your theory the MONOTONIC clock runs differently/wrongly could
>>> explain that (assuming this drives the sched clock). Though, I am
>> No. sched_clock() is separate. It uses a raw timestamp (in your case
>> from the ARM arch timer) and converts it to something which is close to
>> proper time. So my assumption was based on the printout Waiman had:
>>
>>  [ 1... ] CPU.... watchdog_fn now  170000000
>>  [ 25.. ] CPU.... watchdog_fn now 4170000000
>>
>> I assumed that now comes from ktime_get() or something like
>> that. Waiman?
>
> I printed out the now parameter of the  __hrtimer_run_queues() call.

Yes. That's clock MONOTONIC.

> So from the timer perspective, it is losing time. For watchdog, the soft
> expiry time is 4s. The watchdog function won't be called until the
> timer's time advances 4s or more. That corresponds to about 24s in
> timestamp time for that particular class of systems.

Right. And assumed that the firmware call is the culprit this has an
explanation.

Could you please take sched_clock() timestamps before and after the
firmware call which kicks the secondary CPUs into life to verify that?

They should sum up to the amount of time which gets lost accross
smp_init().

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-16 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-03 15:10 [PATCH v2] watchdog: Fix possible soft lockup warning at bootup Waiman Long
2020-01-16  2:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-16 11:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-16 15:11     ` Robert Richter
2020-01-16 16:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-16 17:34         ` Waiman Long
2020-01-16 19:10           ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-01-16 19:13             ` Waiman Long
2020-01-16 18:17       ` [PATCH] watchdog/softlockup: Enforce that timestamp is valid on boot Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-17 10:25         ` [tip: core/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-16 15:34     ` [PATCH v2] watchdog: Fix possible soft lockup warning at bootup Waiman Long

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