From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@memnix.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
keyrings@linux-nfs.org,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Should we automatically generate a module signing key at all?
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 14:31:29 +0930 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fv6rhmfq.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555A88FB.7000809@kernel.org>
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> writes:
> On 05/18/2015 09:20 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:04 AM, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Should we instead provide a script:
>>>
>>> ./scripts/generate-key
>>>
>>> That generates a key if run and make it so that the build fails if you turn on
>>> module signing and there's no key.
>>
>> That would just be stupid.
>>
>> I'm not ever applying a patch like that. That would absolutely destroy
>> the sane "git clean + rebuild" model.
>>
>> Why the hell would you want to make the sane case that people actually
>> *use* be harder to use.
>>
>> Nobody sane bothers with long-term keys. They are inconvenient and less secure.
>>
>> Put the onus on making it inconvenient on those people who actually
>> have special keys, not on normal people.
>>
>
> I think we should get rid of the idea of automatically generated signing
> keys entirely. Instead I think we should generate, at build time, a
> list of all the module hashes and link that into vmlinux.
Yep, suggested that long ago. But people want signatures, because
the actual push for pubkeys was never the temp-pubkey model.
Cheers,
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-20 5:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-18 16:04 Should we automatically generate a module signing key at all? David Howells
2015-05-18 16:19 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-18 16:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-18 16:55 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-18 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 0:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 7:42 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 8:53 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 12:46 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 12:52 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 14:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 15:30 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 15:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-05-19 16:09 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 16:23 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 17:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-05-19 18:10 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 21:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-05-20 7:45 ` Michal Marek
2015-05-20 7:47 ` Michal Marek
2015-05-19 17:32 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 17:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 17:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:38 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:50 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:57 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 15:59 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 15:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 15:53 ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 17:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 18:08 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:38 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 20:00 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 20:25 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:44 ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 16:10 ` David Howells
2015-05-21 16:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 20:37 ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-20 5:01 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-05-21 23:54 George Spelvin
2015-05-22 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 0:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 14:13 ` George Spelvin
2015-05-22 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 20:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 22:18 ` David Howells
2015-05-22 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 22:15 ` David Howells
2015-05-22 22:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 22:21 ` David Howells
2015-05-22 0:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 12:42 ` George Spelvin
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