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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] QOM: Singleton interface
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:38:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h690my2w.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241024165627.1372621-1-peterx@redhat.com> (Peter Xu's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2024 12:56:23 -0400")

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> This patchset introduces the singleton interface for QOM.
>
> The singleton interface is as simple as "this class can only create one
> instance".
>
> We used to have similar demand when working on all kinds of vIOMMUs,
> because in most cases that I am aware of, vIOMMU must be a singleton as
> it's closely bound to the machine and also the root PCIe systems.  We used
> to have a bunch of special code guarding those, for example, X86 has
> pc_machine_device_pre_plug_cb() just to detect when vIOMMU is created more
> than once.
>
> There is a similar demand raising recently (even if the problem existed
> over years) when we were looking at a migration bug, that part of it was
> involved with the current_migration global pointer being referenced
> anywhere, even after the migration object was finalize()ed.  So far without
> singleton support, there's no way to reset the variable properly.
> Declaring migration object to be a singleton also just makes sense, e.g.,
> dynamically creating migration objects on the fly with QMP commands doesn't
> sound right..
>
> The idea behind is pretty simple: any object that can only be created once
> can now declare the TYPE_SINGLETON interface, then QOM facilities will make
> sure it won't be created more than once.  For example, qom-list-properties,
> device-list-properties, etc., will be smart enough to not try to create
> temporary singleton objects now.

QOM design assumption: object_new() followed by object_unref() is always
possible and has no side effect.

QOM introspection relies on this.  Your PATCH 1 makes non-class
properties of singletons invisible in introspection.  Making something
with such properties a singleton would be a regression.

Anything that violates the design assumption must be delayed to a
suitable state transition.  For devices (subtypes of TYPE_DEVICE), this
is ->realize().  For user-creatable objects (provide interface
TYPE_USER_CREATABLE), this is ->complete().  For anything else, it's
something else that probably doesn't even exist, yet.  See "Problem 5:
QOM lacks a clear life cycle" in

    Subject: Dynamic & heterogeneous machines, initial configuration: problems
    Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:14:21 +0100
    Message-ID: <87o7d1i7ky.fsf@pond.sub.org>
    https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/87o7d1i7ky.fsf@pond.sub.org/

>                                   Meanwhile, we also guard device-add paths
> so that it'll fail properly if it's created more than once (and iff it's a
> TYPE_DEVICE first).

[...]



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-25  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-24 16:56 [PATCH 0/4] QOM: Singleton interface Peter Xu
2024-10-24 16:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] qom: TYPE_SINGLETON interface Peter Xu
2024-10-24 20:02   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-24 20:53     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25 15:11       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-10-25 16:21         ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25  8:07   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-10-25 15:17     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25  9:51   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-25 16:17     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25 16:22       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-25 22:10         ` Peter Xu
2024-10-29  0:01           ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25 16:37     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-24 16:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/iommu: Make x86-iommu a singleton object Peter Xu
2024-10-25  9:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-10-25 21:55     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-25 22:13       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 11:12         ` Markus Armbruster
2024-11-07 15:29           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08  8:50             ` Markus Armbruster
2024-10-29 10:47   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-29 14:32     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-24 16:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] migration: Make migration object " Peter Xu
2024-10-24 19:20   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-10-24 16:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] migration: Reset current_migration properly Peter Xu
2024-10-24 19:34   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-10-24 20:15     ` Peter Xu
2024-10-24 20:51       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-10-25  7:38 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2024-10-25 15:01   ` [PATCH 0/4] QOM: Singleton interface Peter Xu
2024-10-29 10:42     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-29 14:45       ` Peter Xu
2024-10-29 16:04         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-10-29 17:05           ` Peter Xu
2024-10-29 17:17             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-12-11  8:19             ` Markus Armbruster
2024-12-11 22:10               ` Peter Xu

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