From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Peter Oskolkov <posk@google.com>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is adding an argument to an existing syscall okay?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:45:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ima34vjm.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1828724974.48168.1605640886598.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (Mathieu Desnoyers's message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:21:26 -0500 (EST)")
* Mathieu Desnoyers:
> In some sense, it's a good thing that there isn't such wrapper exposed
> yet. It also makes me wonder whether exposing system calls directly as a
> library ABI is a good thing. It appears that library ABIs have stronger
> restrictions with respect to number and types of parameters than system
> calls.
The generic syscall wrapper function cannot be used to call all system
calls on several architectures (e.g., if the kernel ABI has long as 64
bits, userspace has 32 bits, and the syscall function is *required* to
return a long value, not long long). It may also be difficult to get
the argument promotion correctly. _time64-only architectures have
source code impact even if time is not actually used in the call. And
so on.
A wrapper-less approach is possible, I think, even with C. But I do
not think that userspace source code portability without wrappers has
been a concern for system call design so far. It's a very constrained
space already, so I'm not sure if it's a good idea to add further
rules.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-17 19:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-16 23:57 Is adding an argument to an existing syscall okay? Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-17 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-11-17 17:05 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-17 17:16 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 18:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-11-17 18:44 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 18:58 ` Peter Oskolkov
2020-11-17 19:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-11-17 19:32 ` Peter Oskolkov
2020-11-17 19:45 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-11-19 3:08 ` Aleksa Sarai
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=87ima34vjm.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de \
--to=fw@deneb.enyo.de \
--cc=linux-api@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=luto@kernel.org \
--cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=posk@google.com \
--cc=segher@kernel.crashing.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.