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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: "Al Boldi" <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: "'Marcelo Tosatti'" <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kswapd flaw
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:50:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87irzy63xx.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200506281147.OAA20216@raad.intranet> (Al Boldi's message of "28 Jun 2005 12:49:42 +0100")

On 28 Jun 2005, Al Boldi yowled:
> Nix wrote:
>> On 28 Jun 2005, Al Boldi murmured woefully:
>>> Kswapd starts evicting processes to fullfil a malloc, when it should 
>>> just deny it because there is no swap.
>> I can't even tell what you're expecting. Surely not that no pages are ever
>> evicted or flushed; your memory would fill up with page cache in no time.
> 
> Please do flush anytime, and do it in sync during OOMs; but don't evict
> procs especially not RUNNING procs, that is overkill.

But processes (really, mapped text pages; really, read-only mapped pages
of all kinds) are loaded piecemeal in any case. Would you really like a
system where once something was faulted in, it could never leave? You'd
run out of memory *awfully* fast.

A system in which pages can be faulted in *and* out is consistent: one
in which they can only be faulted in is both inconsistent and very
deadlock-prone.

-- 
`I lost interest in "blade servers" when I found they didn't throw knives
 at people who weren't supposed to be in your machine room.'
    --- Anthony de Boer

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-28 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-27 20:04 Kswapd flaw Al Boldi
2005-06-27 15:58 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-06-28  6:37   ` Al Boldi
2005-06-28  8:18     ` Michal Schmidt
2005-06-28  9:08       ` Al Boldi
2005-06-28  9:54         ` Michal Schmidt
2005-06-28 10:50     ` Nix
2005-06-28 11:47       ` Al Boldi
2005-06-28 12:50         ` Nix [this message]
2005-06-28 13:52           ` Al Boldi
2005-06-28 14:37             ` Nix
2005-06-28 15:35               ` Al Boldi
2005-06-28 16:25                 ` Nix
2005-06-28 18:15         ` Helge Hafting
2005-06-28 14:55     ` Paulo Marques
2005-06-28  9:58       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-06-28 16:43         ` Al Boldi
     [not found] <4knRo-4Li-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <4koWT-5Iy-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-06-28 14:28   ` Robert Hancock
     [not found] <20050628143932.GA14545@logos.cnet>
2005-06-29  4:53 ` Al Boldi

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