From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hubert Chan Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:35:09 -0400 Sender: news Message-ID: <87isazma02.fsf@uhoreg.ca> References: <41323AD8.7040103@namesys.com> <413486B0.4050101@sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Waychison writes: Mike> Hans Reiser wrote: >> > Why Openat Sucks: >> >> because you can't go cat filenameA/metas/permissions > >> filenameB/permissions >> >> If cat doesn't work, then we are suffering exactly the problem with >> namespace fragmentation that this whole scheme was invented to avoid. Mike> Sure you can. All you need to do is fix your shell. And you'll have to fix every other program that you want to use to edit metadata/attributes/streams. The whole point of avoiding namespace fragmentation is to avoid having to fix programs. Like I said in another post, the world is bigger than just the command line. The command line just gives really easy examples of why Hans (and others) thinks about things the way he does. -- Hubert Chan - http://www.uhoreg.ca/ PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/124B61FA Fingerprint: 96C5 012F 5F74 A5F7 1FF7 5291 AF29 C719 124B 61FA Key available at wwwkeys.pgp.net. Encrypted e-mail preferred.