From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Avinash Duduskar <avinash.duduskar@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/3] bpf: bidirectional VLAN support for bpf_fib_lookup()
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 12:07:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jyrwf9g1.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260617224729.1428662-1-avinash.duduskar@gmail.com>
Avinash Duduskar <avinash.duduskar@gmail.com> writes:
> This series adds VLAN awareness to bpf_fib_lookup() in both directions.
> BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN resolves a VLAN egress to its underlying real device
> plus the VLAN tag (XDP programs need this because VLAN devices have no XDP
> xmit), and BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN_INPUT runs the lookup as if a tagged frame
> had arrived on the matching VLAN subinterface, for iif policy routing and
> VRF table selection.
>
> The l3mdev/VRF flow-init fix that was patch 1 in v1 and v2 has been split
> out and sent to bpf on its own, since it is an independent Fixes:-tagged
> fix that routes to stable on its own schedule. This series is otherwise
> independent of it: on the default CONFIG_INIT_STACK_ALL_ZERO the VRF
> selftests pass with or without the fix. Only the one full-lookup VRF arm
> ("IPv4 VLAN input, tag selects VRF table") depends on it, and only on
> INIT_STACK_ALL_PATTERN or NONE builds, where the uninitialized
> flowi_l3mdev otherwise misses the l3mdev rule and the lookup falls
> through to the main table. Applying the l3mdev fix first closes that
> window.
>
> Changes v2 -> v3 (all from Toke's review unless noted):
>
> - Split the l3mdev/VRF flow-init fix out to a standalone bpf submission
> (it was patch 1 in v2).
>
> - Patch 2 (VLAN_INPUT): bpf_fib_vlan_input_dev() returns a
> struct net_device * with ERR_PTR() for the -EINVAL case and NULL for
> NOT_FWDED, instead of an int return and a **dev out-parameter.
>
> - Trim the BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN and BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN_INPUT UAPI doc
> blocks, and drop the in-function comments that restated the commit
> message or the flag doc.
>
> - Patch 1 (VLAN egress): on the skb path without tot_len, the deferred mtu
> check now runs against the resolved egress (VLAN) device, not the parent
> params->ifindex was swapped to, so a VLAN device with a smaller mtu than
> its parent is no longer checked against, or reported as, the parent's
> larger mtu. Found by the bpf ci bot; this was an open question in v2.
>
> - Patch 3 (selftests): re-run every case through bpf_xdp_fib_lookup() as
> well, since the feature targets XDP; and flip the no-tot_len mtu arm to
> expect the VLAN device's mtu after the fix above.
>
> Open questions (defaults chosen, noted here in case a maintainer
> prefers otherwise):
>
> 1. An unmatched, down, or foreign-netns tag returns
> BPF_FIB_LKUP_RET_NOT_FWDED, matching the DIRECT path when
> fib_get_table() finds no table, rather than a new return code.
>
> 2. BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_OUTPUT | BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN_INPUT is rejected with
> -EINVAL; restricting now keeps relaxing later backward-compatible.
>
> 3. The name BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN_INPUT reads oddly next to
> BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_OUTPUT. A pair like _VLAN_EGRESS/_VLAN_INGRESS is an
> option while nothing is merged.
These three are fine as-is, I think.
> 4. The egress flag leaves a VLAN it cannot reduce to a physical parent
> plus one tag (QinQ, or a parent in another namespace) as SUCCESS with
> the VLAN device's ifindex and the vlan fields zero, like a plain
> lookup. The input side instead fails closed (NOT_FWDED) on the
> cross-namespace case. An XDP caller cannot xmit on a VLAN device, and
> a zero h_vlan_proto does not distinguish this result from a physical
> egress, so returning NOT_FWDED would be safer for XDP. But the two
> cases differ: a foreign-netns parent is clearly fail-worthy, while a
> QinQ egress is still a forwardable route (tc xmits on the inner VLAN
> device), so failing it closed would reject a usable route. Should
> egress signal NOT_FWDED, for both or only foreign-netns? I left it
> best-effort, but will change it if you prefer.
This one is a bit more ambiguous. Specifically, the inability for an XDP
program to distinguish between a route that actually targets a physical
device, and one that targets a VLAN device that couldn't be resolved for
whatever reason.
Since this is a new feature that's opt-in, I think I would lean towards
failing lookups with a new error code (BPF_FIB_LKUP_RET_VLAN_FAILURE,
say) if the lookup finds a VLAN device but can't actually resolve the
parent. That way the XDP program can repeat the lookup without the
BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN flag if it really wants the ifindex of that VLAN
device, but that will be explicit and not hidden.
-Toke
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-18 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-17 22:47 [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/3] bpf: bidirectional VLAN support for bpf_fib_lookup() Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-17 22:47 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/3] bpf: Add BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN flag to bpf_fib_lookup() helper Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-17 22:47 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/3] bpf: Add BPF_FIB_LOOKUP_VLAN_INPUT " Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-17 22:47 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_fib_lookup() VLAN flag tests Avinash Duduskar
2026-06-18 10:07 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
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