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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] tick/sched: Prevent pointless NOHZ transitions
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 22:55:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jyw1u7ps.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5987061.DvuYhMxLoT@rafael.j.wysocki>

On Tue, Feb 24 2026 at 22:31, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 24, 2026 5:13:06 PM CET Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> So either the governor/driver muck provides some sensible default
>> implementation or this has to go into into default_idle_call().
>> 
>> Oh well...
>
> It looks like the issue is cause by the tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick() called right
> before invoking default_idle_call().
>
> After the recent changes mentioned above, cpuidle_select() will never stop the
> tick when there's only one idle state in the cpuidle driver, so it would be
> consistent to make the default case behave analogously.  The default idle state
> is never a deep one AFAICS.
>
> So maybe something like the below?
>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/idle.c |    2 --
>  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
>
> --- a/kernel/sched/idle.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/idle.c
> @@ -186,8 +186,6 @@ static void cpuidle_idle_call(void)
>  	}
>  
>  	if (cpuidle_not_available(drv, dev)) {
> -		tick_nohz_idle_stop_tick();
> -
>  		default_idle_call();
>  		goto exit_idle;
>  	}

Which prevents VMs or other systems which do not have an idle driver to
stop the tick at all. That's just obviously wrong, no?

Thanks,

        tglx



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24  8:32 [PATCH RFC] tick/sched: Prevent pointless NOHZ transitions Thomas Gleixner
2026-02-24  9:35 ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-24 16:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-02-24 21:31     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-24 21:55       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-02-25 12:54         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-25 13:10           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-02-25 16:00             ` Thomas Gleixner

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