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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Leonardo Bras" <leobras@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Peng Tao" <tao.peng@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Mario Casquero" <mcasquer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] softmmu/physmem: Warn with ram_block_discard_range() on MAP_PRIVATE file mapping
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 10:10:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzvdbgv1.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230706075612.67404-2-david@redhat.com> (David Hildenbrand's message of "Thu, 6 Jul 2023 09:56:06 +0200")

David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> ram_block_discard_range() cannot possibly do the right thing in
> MAP_PRIVATE file mappings in the general case.
>
> To achieve the documented semantics, we also have to punch a hole into
> the file, possibly messing with other MAP_PRIVATE/MAP_SHARED mappings
> of such a file.
>
> For example, using VM templating -- see commit b17fbbe55cba ("migration:
> allow private destination ram with x-ignore-shared") -- in combination with
> any mechanism that relies on discarding of RAM is problematic. This
> includes:
> * Postcopy live migration
> * virtio-balloon inflation/deflation or free-page-reporting
> * virtio-mem
>
> So at least warn that there is something possibly dangerous is going on
> when using ram_block_discard_range() in these cases.
>
> Acked-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> Tested-by: Mario Casquero <mcasquer@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>

Reviewed-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>

(at least we give a warning)

But I wonder if we can do better and test that:
 * Postcopy live migration

   We can check if we are on postcopy, or put a marker so we know that
   postcopy can have problems when started.

 * virtio-balloon inflation/deflation or free-page-reporting

   We can check if we have ever used virtio-balloon.

 * virtio-mem

   We can check if we have used virtio-men


I am just wondering if that is even possible?

Thanks, Juan.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-06  7:56 [PATCH v2 0/4] virtio-mem: Support "x-ignore-shared" migration David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  7:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] softmmu/physmem: Warn with ram_block_discard_range() on MAP_PRIVATE file mapping David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:10   ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2023-07-06  8:31     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06 13:20       ` Juan Quintela
2023-07-06 13:23         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:49   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-18  3:02   ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-10-18  7:42     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-18  9:02       ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-10-18  9:26         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-18 16:27           ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-10-19  8:26             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-19  9:26               ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-10-19  9:43                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  7:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] virtio-mem: Skip most of virtio_mem_unplug_all() without plugged memory David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:15   ` Juan Quintela
2023-07-06  8:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06 13:27       ` Juan Quintela
2023-07-06  7:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] migration/ram: Expose ramblock_is_ignored() as migrate_ram_is_ignored() David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:16   ` Juan Quintela
2023-07-06  7:56 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] virtio-mem: Support "x-ignore-shared" migration David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06 11:06   ` Juan Quintela
2023-07-06 11:27     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06 11:59   ` Juan Quintela
2023-07-06 14:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-07 12:21   ` David Hildenbrand

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