From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Matt Rickard <matt@softrans.com.au>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
devel@linuxdriverproject.org,
Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 09:54:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1mycfju.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181003190617.GC21381@amt.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 11:22:58AM +0200, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>>
>> There is a very long history of different (hardware) issues Marcelo was
>> fighting with and the current code is the survived Frankenstein.
>
> Right, the code has to handle different TSC modes.
>
>> E.g. it
>> is very, very unclear what "catchup", "always catchup" and
>> masterclock-less mode in general are and if we still need them.
>
> Catchup means handling exposed (to guest) TSC frequency smaller than
> HW TSC frequency.
>
> That is "frankenstein" code, could be removed.
>
>> That said I'm all for simplification. I'm not sure if we still need to
>> care about buggy hardware though.
>
> What simplification is that again?
>
I was hoping to hear this from you :-) If I am to suggest how we can
move forward I'd propose:
- Check if pure TSC can be used on SkyLake+ systems (where TSC scaling
is supported).
- Check if non-masterclock mode is still needed. E.g. HyperV's TSC page
clocksource is a single page for the whole VM, not a per-cpu thing. Can
we think that all the buggy hardware is already gone?
--
Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-04 7:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-14 12:50 [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 01/11] clocksource: Provide clocksource_arch_init() Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 02/11] x86/time: Implement clocksource_arch_init() Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 15:45 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-15 6:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-15 6:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 15:45 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 03/11] x86/vdso: Enforce 64bit clocksource Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 04/11] x86/vdso: Use unsigned int consistently for vsyscall_gtod_data::seq Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 05/11] x86/vdso: Introduce and use vgtod_ts Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 06/11] x86/vdso: Collapse high resolution functions Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 07/11] x86/vdso: Collapse coarse functions Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 08/11] x86/vdso: Replace the clockid switch case Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 09/11] x86/vdso: Simplify the invalid vclock case Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-17 19:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 19:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 20:12 ` John Stultz
2018-09-18 7:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 8:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 10:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 10:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 10:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 13:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 15:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 15:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 13:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 10:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 8:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 14:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 14:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 22:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 22:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 23:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 23:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-27 14:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 23:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 23:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-19 9:08 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-09-19 13:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-19 13:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 7:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 10/11] x86/vdso: Move cycle_last handling into the caller Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 15:26 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-14 15:26 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 11/11] x66/vdso: Add CLOCK_TAI support Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-14 14:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-14 14:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-16 9:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-16 9:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-14 12:56 ` [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and " Florian Weimer
2018-09-14 13:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 13:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 13:06 ` Florian Weimer
2018-09-14 13:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 13:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-17 13:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-24 21:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-24 21:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-17 13:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-03 5:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 5:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 9:22 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 10:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 10:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 12:01 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 12:01 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 14:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 14:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 15:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03 16:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 16:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 15:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03 19:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04 7:54 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-04 7:54 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2018-10-04 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 14:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 19:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 20:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-06 20:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-06 20:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-06 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-08 15:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-08 15:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-08 17:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-08 19:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-08 19:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-09 20:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-09 20:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-11 22:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-11 22:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-11 23:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-11 23:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-15 13:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-15 13:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-08 17:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-06 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-06 20:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-06 20:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04 14:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 12:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-04 14:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 14:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 12:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-05 21:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-05 21:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 19:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 9:22 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 19:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 19:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 19:05 ` [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support\ Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 19:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 22:32 ` [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 22:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 16:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04 17:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 17:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 17:28 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-04 17:28 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-04 16:37 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2018-09-14 12:50 Thomas Gleixner
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