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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrei Vagin <avagin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [REVIEW][PATCH] mnt: In umount propagation reparent in a separate pass
Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 13:33:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k258zqqm.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170522081547.GA7481@ram.oc3035372033.ibm.com> (Ram Pai's message of "Mon, 22 May 2017 01:15:47 -0700")

Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com> writes:

> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 03:10:38PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> 
>> It was observed that in some pathlogical cases that the current code
>> does not unmount everything it should.  After investigation it was
>> determined that the issue is that mnt_change_mntpoint can can change
>> which mounts are available to be unmounted during mount propagation
>> which is wrong.
>> 
>> The trivial reproducer is:
>> $ cat ./pathological.sh
>> 
>> mount -t tmpfs test-base /mnt
>> cd /mnt
>> mkdir 1 2 1/1
>> mount --bind 1 1
>> mount --make-shared 1
>> mount --bind 1 2
>> mount --bind 1/1 1/1
>> mount --bind 1/1 1/1
>> echo
>> grep test-base /proc/self/mountinfo
>> umount 1/1
>> echo
>> grep test-base /proc/self/mountinfo
>> 
>> $ unshare -Urm ./pathological.sh
>> 
>> The expected output looks like:
>> 46 31 0:25 / /mnt rw,relatime - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 47 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 48 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/2 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 49 54 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 50 53 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 51 49 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 54 47 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 53 48 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 52 50 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 
>> 46 31 0:25 / /mnt rw,relatime - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 47 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 48 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/2 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 
>> The output without the fix looks like:
>> 46 31 0:25 / /mnt rw,relatime - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 47 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 48 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/2 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 49 54 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 50 53 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 51 49 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 54 47 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 53 48 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 52 50 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 
>> 46 31 0:25 / /mnt rw,relatime - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 47 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 48 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/2 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 52 48 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
>> 
>> That last mount in the output was in the propgation tree to be unmounted but
>> was missed because the mnt_change_mountpoint changed it's parent before the walk
>> through the mount propagation tree observed it.
>> 
>
> Looks patch correct to me.
> Reviewed-by: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
>
> BTW: The logic of find_topper() looks not-so-accurate to me. Why dont we
> explicitly flag tucked mounts with MNT_TUCKED, and use that information
> to determine if the child is really a topper?  Currently we determine
> the topper if it entirely is covering. How do we diambiguate that from an
> entirely-covering-mount that is explicitly mounted by the administrator?
> A topper situation is applicable only when tucked, right?

In the current code explictly does not care about the difference.
The code just restricts untucking mounts of any kind to umount
propagation.

This is where we have previously disagreed.

A short summary of our previous discussions:
Eric Biederman: find_topper makes tucked mounts ordinary mounts and is simple.
Eric Biederman: I don't see a compelling case for a MNT_TUCKED flag
Eric Biederman: I think the change is a nice behavioral improvement
Ram Pai: a MNT_TUCKED flag would perfectly preserve existing behavior
Ram Pai: find_topper while not perfect is better than the previous
         very special case for side/shadow mounts

With respect to backwards compatibility the set of bugs I am fixing
shows that it is possible to have some very egregious bugs in this
area and in practice no one cares.


Without a MNT_TUCKED flag I can readily tell what the following
code should do by simply inspection of the of the mount
propgation information in /proc/self/mountinfo:

$ mount -t tmpfs test-base /mnt
$ cd /mnt
$ mkdir -p 1 2 1/1
$ mount --bind 1 1
$ mount --make-shared 1
$ mount --bind 1 2
$ mount --bind 1/1 1/1
$ mount --bind 1/1 1/1
$ umount 1/1

Before the umount /proc/self/mountinfo shows:
 46 31 0:25 / /mnt rw,relatime - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 47 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 48 46 0:25 /1 /mnt/2 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 49 54 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 50 53 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 51 49 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 54 47 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/1/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 53 48 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502
 52 50 0:25 /1/1 /mnt/2/1 rw,relatime shared:1 - tmpfs test-base rw,uid=502,gid=502

So it is clear to me that umount /mnt/1/1 should just leave:
/mnt
/mnt/1
/mnt/2

I would argue that is what the code should always have done.

I believe the code with a MNT_TUCKED flag would leave:
/mnt
/mnt/1
/mnt/1/1
/mnt/2
But in truth it makes my head hurt to think about it.
I don't see that MNT_TUCKED adds anything except aditional code
complexity.

I don't actually see what the value is in keeping mounts that you can
not use (because they are overmounted) around.

If the scenarios we were talking about were all limited to perfoming a
mount and then undoing that mount I could almost see some value in a
MNT_TUCKED flag.  Given that one of the justications for tucking mounts
in the first place is what happens when you umount something on a slave
mount I really don't like it.  As now I get the question what happens
on a slave mount where a mount has been propagated and tucked, and
then the topper is unmounted and a new topper is added.  Should unmount
on the parent untuck the propagated mount or leave it there?  It was
propagated it was tucked but it wasn't tucked under what is currenty on
top.

I much prefer the current semantics where we just say mount propagation
can tuck and untuck things, and the history of how the mount tree got
into its current shape is not important.

Given how difficult it has been to make this code performant and correct
I am not particularly eager to add complexity for unnecessary bug
compatibility.  But if it creates a breaking regression for something
(other than a regression test) I am willing to add MNT_TUCKED.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-22 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-31  4:10 [PATCH] Fix a race in put_mountpoint Krister Johansen
2016-12-31  6:17 ` Al Viro
2017-01-03  0:51   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-03  1:48     ` Al Viro
2017-01-03  3:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-03  4:00         ` Al Viro
2017-01-04  3:52           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-04  3:53             ` [PATCH] mnt: Protect the mountpoint hashtable with mount_lock Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-04 21:04               ` [REVIEW][PATCH] mnt: Tuck mounts under others instead of creating shadow/side mounts Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-07  5:06                 ` Al Viro
2017-01-11  0:10                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-11  4:11                     ` Al Viro
2017-01-11 16:03                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-11 16:18                         ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/2] mnt: Fix propagate_mount_busy to notice all cases of busy mounts Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-11 16:19                           ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/2] mnt: Tuck mounts under others instead of creating shadow/side mounts Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-12  5:45                             ` Al Viro
2017-01-20  7:20                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-20  7:26                               ` [PATCH v5] " Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-21  3:58                                 ` Ram Pai
2017-01-21  4:15                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-23 19:02                                     ` Ram Pai
2017-01-24  0:16                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-03 10:54                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-03 17:10                                           ` Ram Pai
2017-02-03 18:26                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-03 20:28                                               ` Ram Pai
2017-02-03 20:58                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-06  3:25                                                   ` Andrei Vagin
2017-02-06 21:40                                                     ` Ram Pai
2017-02-07  6:35                                                       ` Andrei Vagin
2017-01-12  5:30                           ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/2] mnt: Fix propagate_mount_busy to notice all cases of busy mounts Al Viro
2017-01-20  7:18                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-13 20:32                           ` Andrei Vagin
2017-01-18 19:20                             ` Andrei Vagin
2017-01-20 23:18                           ` Ram Pai
2017-01-23  8:15                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-23 17:04                               ` Ram Pai
2017-01-12  5:03                         ` [REVIEW][PATCH] mnt: Tuck mounts under others instead of creating shadow/side mounts Al Viro
2017-05-14  2:15                 ` Andrei Vagin
2017-05-14  4:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-14  9:26                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-15 18:27                       ` Andrei Vagin
2017-05-15 19:42                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-15 20:10                           ` [REVIEW][PATCH] mnt: In umount propagation reparent in a separate pass Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-15 23:12                             ` Andrei Vagin
2017-05-16  5:42                             ` [PATCH] test: check a case when a mount is propagated between exiting mounts Andrei Vagin
2017-05-17  5:54                             ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/2] mnt: In propgate_umount handle visiting mounts in any order Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-17  5:55                               ` [REVIEW][PATCH 2/2] mnt: Make propagate_umount less slow for overlapping mount propagation trees Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-17 22:48                                 ` Andrei Vagin
2017-05-17 23:26                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-18  0:51                                     ` Andrei Vagin
2017-05-24 20:42                               ` [REVIEW][PATCH 1/2] mnt: In propgate_umount handle visiting mounts in any order Ram Pai
2017-05-24 21:54                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-24 22:35                                   ` Ram Pai
2017-05-30  6:07                               ` Ram Pai
2017-05-30 15:07                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-07  9:54                                   ` Ram Pai
2017-06-07 13:09                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-22  8:15                             ` [REVIEW][PATCH] mnt: In umount propagation reparent in a separate pass Ram Pai
2017-05-22 18:33                               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2017-05-22 22:34                                 ` Ram Pai
2017-05-23 13:58                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-01-06  7:00               ` [PATCH] mnt: Protect the mountpoint hashtable with mount_lock Krister Johansen

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