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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org,  linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
	 Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	 linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
	 Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	 David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	 Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	 Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: proposed libc interface and man page for statmount(2)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:47:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leawphcj.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegvqBtePer8HRuShe3PAHLbCg9YNUpOWzPg-+=gGwQJWpw@mail.gmail.com> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:01:27 +0100")

* Miklos Szeredi:

> On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 21:36, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> In addition to Adhemerval's observation that we'd prefer to have some
>> hint regarding the buffer size, it's probably better to have entirely
>> separate interfaces because it makes static analysis easier.  With a
>> unified interface, we can still convey the information with an inline
>> wrapper function, but we can avoid that complexity.
>
> I'm not against having separate allocating and the non-allocating
> interfaces.

Thanks.

> But I don't think the allocating one needs a size hint.   Your
> suggestion of passing a buffer on the stack to the syscall and then
> copying to an exact sized malloc should take care of it.   If the
> stack buffer is sized generously, then the loop will never need to
> repeat for any real life case.

The strings could get fairly large if they ever contain key material,
especially for post-quantum cryptography.

We have plenty of experience with these double-buffer-and-retry
interfaces and glibc, and the failure mode once there is much more data
than initially expected can be quite bad.  For new interfaces, I want a
way to avoid that.  At least as long applications use statmount_allloc,
we have a way to switch to a different interface if that becomes
necessary just with a glibc-internal change.

Thanks,
Florian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-17 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-15 15:08 proposed libc interface and man page for statmount(2) Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-16 20:12 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-11-16 20:36 ` Florian Weimer
2023-11-16 21:01   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-17 14:22     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-17 14:47     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2023-11-17 15:13       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-17 15:50         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-20 11:55           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-20 12:16             ` Florian Weimer
2023-11-20 12:34               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-20 23:56                 ` Ian Kent
2023-11-21  0:58                   ` Ian Kent
2023-11-21  1:12                     ` Ian Kent
2023-11-21  1:33                       ` Ian Kent
2023-11-21 19:42                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-11-21 20:42                           ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-21 23:28                             ` Ian Kent
2023-11-22 16:18                               ` Zack Weinberg
2023-11-21 23:07                           ` Ian Kent
2023-11-22 10:18                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-20 15:38             ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-20 15:30         ` Christian Brauner

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