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From: Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@cyberadapt.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, CAI Qian <caiqian@redhat.com>,
	"Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@cyberadapt.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@mobileactivedefense.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: possible circular locking dependency detected
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 16:18:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgzae3f7.fsf@doppelsaurus.mobileactivedefense.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwntZpaAutp_C=sLBg8ravfYGRoF4TTG1cfE3SjaJEOtw@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:04:38 -0700")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Outside as in "all fs activity in bind happens under it".  Along with
>>> assignment to ->u.addr, etc.  IOW, make it the outermost lock there.
>>
>> Hah, yes. I misunderstood you.
>>
>> Yes. In fact that fixes the problem I mentioned, rather than introducing it.
>
> So the easiest approach would seem to be to revert commit c845acb324aa
> ("af_unix: Fix splice-bind deadlock"), and then apply the lock split.
>
> Like the attached two patches.
>
> This is still *entirely* untested.

As far as I can tell, this should work as I can't currently imagine why
a fs operation might end up binding a unix socket despite the idea to
make af_unix.c yet more complicated in order to work around irregular
behaviour of (as far as I can tell) a single filesystem (for which
kern_path_create doesn't really mean kern_path_create and it has to work
around that once it gets control) goes against all instincts I have in
this area. If filesystems need to do arbitrary stuff when
__sb_start_write is called for 'their' superblock, they should be able
to do so directly.

At present, this is a theoretic concern as I can't (due to other work
committments) put any non-cursory work into this before Sunday. There
may also be other reasons why this idea is impractical or even
unworkable.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-02 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFwcPK_wXS8SE5wPitCXUewZ1+OGqVrWxvvU8tVDuCeHWA@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]         ` <CA+55aFzbCDwOTbHiawpY2xSaR_EBkTDbYeJV3CH09OLLtPW3nw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <6f7d587b-3933-7c02-a804-db1732ced1cf@stressinduktion.org>
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFyNJg_brA4rGF0S2ve0V_2vuhZCFKEMFDNhHKEXoVCRGA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <20160901204746.GR2356@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFxzRnLCev6i_ehw9LFf-dw3s0znF+nP_c86i=219OZhfg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20160901210142.GS2356@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]                     ` <CA+55aFzxJM4pbS_jySERnCoOvvPbo+FgM7FZEATLJnCseD0j0g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-09-01 22:04                       ` possible circular locking dependency detected Linus Torvalds
2016-09-02 14:43                         ` CAI Qian
2016-09-02 15:51                           ` CAI Qian
2016-09-02 16:46                             ` CAI Qian
2016-09-02 17:10                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-02 15:18                         ` Rainer Weikusat [this message]
2016-09-02 16:00                           ` Al Viro
2016-09-02 16:10                             ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-09-02 17:02                               ` Al Viro
2016-09-02 17:12                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-02 17:40                                   ` Rainer Weikusat
2016-09-02 17:53                                     ` Al Viro
2016-09-02 17:52                                   ` Al Viro
2024-05-01 16:47 Chuck Lever III
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-03-11 12:52 Daniel Wagner
2010-05-20 16:34 Ciprian Docan
2010-05-21 21:14 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-13 18:11 Marko Macek

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