From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virtio device error reporting best practice?
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:04:19 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lhw7rppw.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9twJX3F+as1TuoerW1Yt-b0xw8YEf1YHa0B+MLMJBd0i_w@mail.gmail.com>
Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> writes:
> So I'm looking at how best to do virtio gpu device error reporting,
> and how to deal with illegal stuff,
>
> I've two levels of errors I want to support,
>
> a) unrecoverable or bad guest kernel programming errors,
The QEMU standard approach is to exit at this point. No, really.
> b) per 3D context errors from the renderer backend,
>
> (b) I can easily report in an event queue and the guest kernel can in
> theory blow away the offenders, this is how GL works with some
> extensions,
That's probably sanest.
> For (a) I can expect a response from every command I put into the main
> GPU control queue, the response should always be no error, but in some
> cases it will be because the guest hit some host resource error, or
> asked for something insane, (guest kernel drivers would be broken in
> most of these cases).
>
> Alternately I can use the separate event queue to send async errors
> when the guest does something bad,
>
> I'm also considering adding some sort of flag in config space saying
> the device needs a reset before it will continue doing anything,
I generally dislike error codes which Never Happen; it's like making
every void function return int just in case: the caller has no idea what
to do if it fails.
The litmus test: does *your* guest handle failures other than by giving
up on the device? If so, sure, you need to have a sane error-reporting
strategy.
> The main reason I'm considering this stuff is for security reasons if
> the guest asks for something really illegal or crazy what should the
> expected behaviour of the host be? (at least secure I know that).
If the guest userspace can do it, don't exit. If the kernel only, and
it's should have known better, abort is OK.
Sure that doesn't help much!
Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-19 0:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-17 6:02 [Qemu-devel] virtio device error reporting best practice? Dave Airlie
2014-03-17 14:28 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-17 14:40 ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-17 14:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-17 14:54 ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-17 14:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-03-17 19:05 ` Andreas Färber
2014-03-18 12:45 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-03-17 14:57 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-03-17 14:59 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2014-03-26 12:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-03-17 14:50 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-03-19 0:34 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2014-03-19 8:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-20 3:40 ` Rusty Russell
2014-03-20 6:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-20 12:53 ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-26 14:34 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-27 0:54 ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2014-03-20 6:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-03-21 9:44 ` Yan Vugenfirer
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