From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BB9CD98F7 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 07:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229808AbjJKHoK (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:44:10 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:41578 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229743AbjJKHoJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Oct 2023 03:44:09 -0400 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AE139E for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 00:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0557C433C7; Wed, 11 Oct 2023 07:44:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1697010247; bh=789j1lY3ehj4vw1zEu7cFtV/uiImj5COh22qDE7vinM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PF/wwyHBsF2vEaN0yetiWmNAB8hKn4VqJNRP7upJU5Q4nFB6Yhd39T8Yp7Bz1tCpu dYJ2P/1cAssRMvMx4D/KyDxBRK8t372d580aFUoLwXsR479gGXT/U5njD9ocLsdZBO 4BCSnY1mOiiMv3+tff9II48rSPaUxk8+tLUVO7IljU+peatpiuIS2ncHYbCXz/FF7x +99T1WOYN0aAn5p+JshtFB6jpYa9hV6NUIVQE0lSmJzJ5lGs5CTkP2TPLhOv8oq/Zp rk46oqHJkWbjklmgc9Sd6k4rSW/X33z1AT/YS/ZcHm8YQl2kNWjd0jQzE1+ohZU3h7 sU6PPpiIluh5g== From: Kalle Valo To: Arend Van Spriel Cc: Julian Calaby , Dmitry Antipov , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "lvc-project@linuxtesting.org" , Franky Lin , Hante Meuleman , Hector Martin , SHA-cyfmac-dev-list@infineon.com, brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@broadcom.com Subject: Re: On brcm80211 maintenance and support References: <6f78e624-62ee-3ae5-1db4-a0411566def8@yandex.ru> <87ttr454bh.fsf@kernel.org> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:46:36 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Arend Van Spriel's message of "Mon, 9 Oct 2023 22:22:23 +0200") Message-ID: <87mswpfvoj.fsf@kernel.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org Arend Van Spriel writes: >>> I think it's pretty safe to say that this driver is nearly >>> unmaintained by Broadcom, definitely unmaintained by Cypress / >>> Infineon and Arend is unable to answer questions relating to anything >>> beyond the code as-written. >>> >>> Kalle, should this driver get orphaned? >> We definitely need to consider that but let's first wait for Arend >> to >> comment. > > Using my personal email account to comment. Broadcom has pulled away > most resources from the brcm80211 drivers as there is no business > interest for it and it turned into a one-fifth man show as I was > granted to work one day a week on brcm80211. Nice theory but in > practice other work always takes priority. Sorry to hear that. I know big corporations well enough that it doesn't work like that in reality :/ > So "nearly unmaintained" is no exaggeration. I probably can not meet > the expectations some people in the community have regarding driver > maintainers, but I can still review patch submissions although I > should keep a better eye on the list to do that. It would not be my > choice to abandon brcm80211, but if my contributions are considered > insufficient than I will accept that fact. I definitely would want you to continue maintaining brcm80211! I know how difficult it can be between a rock and a hard place so I value your contributions, and understand sometimes you are not able to react quickly (or at all). What about Franky and Hante? I wonder if we should remove them? Or convert them to reviewers? Also I'm thinking should we change the driver status to Odd Fixes: Odd Fixes: It has a maintainer but they don't have time to do much other than throw the odd patch in. See below.. Of course there's no practical difference what the driver status is but I nowadays try to keep the maintainers file up-to-date. -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches