From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: jstultz@google.com, edumazet@google.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] softirq: don't yield if only expedited handlers are pending
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2023 15:17:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mt4tkjgy.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221222221244.1290833-4-kuba@kernel.org>
Jakub!
On Thu, Dec 22 2022 at 14:12, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> This leads to a situation where we go thru the softirq loop twice.
> First round we have pending = NET (from the NIC IRQ/NAPI), and
> the second iteration has pending = TASKLET (the socket tasklet).
...
> diff --git a/kernel/softirq.c b/kernel/softirq.c
> index ad200d386ec1..4ac59ffb0d55 100644
> --- a/kernel/softirq.c
> +++ b/kernel/softirq.c
> @@ -601,7 +601,7 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __softirq_entry __do_softirq(void)
>
> if (time_is_before_eq_jiffies(end) || !--max_restart)
> limit = SOFTIRQ_OVERLOAD_TIME;
> - else if (need_resched())
> + else if (need_resched() && pending & ~SOFTIRQ_NOW_MASK)
> limit = SOFTIRQ_DEFER_TIME;
> else
> goto restart;
While this is the least of my softirq worries on PREEMPT_RT, Peter is
right about real-time tasks being deferred on a PREEMPT_RT=n
kernel. That's a real issue for low-latency audio which John Stultz is
trying to resolve. Especially as the above check can go in circles.
I fear we need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a real
solution which takes these contradicting aspects into account. Let me
stare at Peters and Johns patches for a while.
Thanks
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-03 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-22 22:12 [PATCH 0/3] softirq: uncontroversial change Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-22 22:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] softirq: rename ksoftirqd_running() -> ksoftirqd_should_handle() Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-22 22:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] softirq: avoid spurious stalls due to need_resched() Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-31 22:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-03 13:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-03 15:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-03 21:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-03 22:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-03 23:25 ` Dave Taht
2023-03-04 1:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-03 23:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-03 23:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-04 1:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-04 1:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-04 3:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-04 20:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-05 20:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-05 22:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-05 23:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-06 4:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-06 11:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-06 9:13 ` David Laight
2023-03-06 11:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-06 14:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-03-07 0:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-22 22:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] softirq: don't yield if only expedited handlers are pending Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-09 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-09 10:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-01-09 19:12 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-03 11:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-03 14:17 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-04-20 17:24 ` [PATCH 0/3] softirq: uncontroversial change Paolo Abeni
2023-04-20 17:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-04-20 20:23 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-04-21 2:48 ` Jason Xing
2023-04-21 9:33 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-04-21 9:46 ` Jason Xing
2023-05-09 19:56 ` [tip: irq/core] Revert "softirq: Let ksoftirqd do its job" tip-bot2 for Paolo Abeni
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