From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk 06/18] printk: Protect [un]register_console() with a mutex
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 01:48:29 +0206 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtajkqvu.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YzMT27FVllY3u05k@alley>
On 2022-09-27, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> Hmm, the new mutex is really nasty. It has very strange semantic.
> It makes the locking even more complicated.
We are working to replace the BKL-console_lock with new separate clearly
defined mechanisms.
The new mutex provides full synchronization for list changes as well as
changes to items of that list. (Really console->flags is the only change
to items of the list.)
For some places in the code it is very clear that the console_lock can
be completely replaced (either with srcu or the new mutex). For other
places, it is not yet clear why the console_lock is being used and so
both console_lock and mutex are used.
> The ideal solution would be take console_lock() here.
We should be looking where we can remove console_lock, not identifying
new locations to add it.
> A good enough solution might be call this under the later added
> srcu_read_lock(&console_srcu) and use for_each_console_srcu().
@console_srcu does not allow safe reading of console->flags. It only
provides safe list iteration and reading of immutable fields. The new
mutex must be used for reading console->flags.
Note that for the NOBKL consoles (not part of this series), a new atomic
state variable is used so that console->flags is not needed. That means
for NOBKL consoles the new mutex is further reduced in scope to provide
only list synchronization.
> Or is this part of some strategy to remove console_sem later, please?
Yes! One of the main points of this final phase of the rework is to
remove console_sem usage (for NOBKL consoles). If a system is running
with only NOBKL consoles registered, ideally that system should never
call console_lock()/console_trylock(). Once all drivers have converted
over to the NOBKL interface, console_sem will serve no purpose for the
printk and console frameworks, so it can be removed.
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-28 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-24 0:04 [PATCH printk 00/18] preparation for threaded/atomic printing John Ogness
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 01/18] printk: Make pr_flush() static John Ogness
2022-09-26 14:12 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 02/18] printk: Declare log_wait properly John Ogness
2022-09-26 14:22 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 03/18] printk: Remove write only variable nr_ext_console_drivers John Ogness
2022-09-26 14:25 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 04/18] printk: Remove bogus comment vs. boot consoles John Ogness
2022-09-26 14:26 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 05/18] printk: Mark __printk percpu data ready __ro_after_init John Ogness
2022-09-26 14:27 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 06/18] printk: Protect [un]register_console() with a mutex John Ogness
2022-09-24 9:31 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-27 15:16 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-28 9:46 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-28 23:42 ` John Ogness [this message]
2022-09-29 15:43 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-30 9:24 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-30 14:16 ` John Ogness
2022-09-30 18:04 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-30 20:26 ` John Ogness
2022-10-03 14:37 ` Petr Mladek
2022-10-03 19:35 ` John Ogness
2022-10-04 2:06 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-04 7:28 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-30 13:30 ` John Ogness
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 07/18] printk: Convert console list walks for readers to list lock John Ogness
2022-09-27 14:07 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 08/18] parisc: Put console abuse into one place John Ogness
2022-09-24 0:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-09-30 7:54 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 09/18] serial: kgdboc: Lock console list in probe function John Ogness
2022-09-28 23:32 ` Doug Anderson
2022-09-30 8:07 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 10/18] kgbd: Pretend that console list walk is safe John Ogness
2022-09-26 9:33 ` Aaron Tomlin
2022-09-28 23:32 ` Doug Anderson
2022-09-30 8:39 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-30 13:44 ` John Ogness
2022-09-30 17:27 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 11/18] printk: Convert console_drivers list to hlist John Ogness
2022-09-24 10:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-24 17:20 ` Helge Deller
2022-09-25 0:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-24 17:27 ` Helge Deller
2022-09-25 4:33 ` kernel test robot
2022-09-30 14:20 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-30 16:53 ` Helge Deller
2022-09-30 19:46 ` John Ogness
2022-09-30 22:41 ` Helge Deller
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 12/18] printk: Prepare for SCRU console list protection John Ogness
2022-09-24 10:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 13/18] printk: Move buffer size defines John Ogness
2022-09-24 11:01 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-07 9:11 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 14/18] printk: Document struct console John Ogness
2022-09-24 11:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-07 11:57 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 15/18] printk: Add struct cons_text_buf John Ogness
2022-09-24 11:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-07 15:15 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 16/18] printk: Use " John Ogness
2022-09-24 11:34 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-10 10:11 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 17/18] printk: Use an output descriptor struct for emit John Ogness
2022-10-10 15:40 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-24 0:04 ` [PATCH printk 18/18] printk: Handle dropped message smarter John Ogness
2022-09-26 4:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-26 7:54 ` John Ogness
2022-09-26 9:18 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-10-10 16:07 ` Petr Mladek
2022-09-26 9:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-24 6:44 ` [PATCH printk 00/18] preparation for threaded/atomic printing Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-09-25 15:23 ` John Ogness
2022-09-24 9:47 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-09-29 16:33 ` Petr Mladek
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