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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	drjones@redhat.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 16/21] i386: track explicit 'hv-*' features enablement/disablement
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 11:20:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mtvw4d59.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg5xjj60.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com>

Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com> writes:

> Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com> writes:
>
>>> 
>>> We need to distinguish because that would be sane.
>>> 
>>> Enlightened VMCS is an extension to VMX, it can't be used without
>>> it. Genuine Hyper-V doesn't have a knob for enabling and disabling it,
>> ...
>>> That bein said, if
>>> guest CPU lacks VMX it is counter-productive to expose EVMCS. However,
>>> there is a problem with explicit enablement: what should
>>> 
>>> 'hv-passthrough,hv-evmcs' option do? Just silently drop EVMCS? Doesn't
>>> sound sane to me.
>> based on above I'd error out is user asks for unsupported option
>> i.e. no VMX -> no hv-evmcs - if explicitly asked -> error out
>
> That's what I keep telling you but you don't seem to listen. 'Scratch
> CPU' can't possibly help with this use-case because when you parse 
>
> 'hv-passthrough,hv-evmcs,vmx=off' you
>
> 1) "hv-passthrough" -> set EVMCS bit to '1' as it is supported by the
> host.
>
> 2) 'hv-evmcs' -> keep EVMCS bit '1'
>
> 3) 'vmx=off' -> you have no idea where EVMCS bit came from.
>
> We have to remember which options were aquired from the host and which
> were set explicitly by the user. 

Igor,

could you please comment on the above? In case my line of thought is
correct, and it is impossible to distinguish between e.g.

'hv-passthrough,hv-evmcs,-vmx'
and
'hv-passthrough,-vmx'

without a custom parser (written just exactly the way I did in this
version, for example) regardless of when 'hv-passthrough' is
expanded. E.g. we have the exact same problem with
'hv-default,hv-evmcs,-vmx'. I that case I see no point in discussing
'scratch CPUs' idea at this point because it is not going to change
anything at all ('hv_features_on' will stay, custom parsers will stay).

Am I missing something?

-- 
Vitaly



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-22 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-10 16:40 [PATCH v4 00/19] i386: KVM: expand Hyper-V features early and provide simple 'hv-default=on' option Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 01/21] i386: keep hyperv_vendor string up-to-date Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 02/21] i386: invert hyperv_spinlock_attempts setting logic with hv_passthrough Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 03/21] i386: always fill Hyper-V CPUID feature leaves from X86CPU data Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 04/21] i386: stop using env->features[] for filling Hyper-V CPUIDs Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 05/21] i386: introduce hyperv_feature_supported() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 06/21] i386: introduce hv_cpuid_get_host() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 07/21] i386: drop FEAT_HYPERV feature leaves Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 08/21] i386: introduce hv_cpuid_cache Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 09/21] i386: split hyperv_handle_properties() into hyperv_expand_features()/hyperv_fill_cpuids() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 10/21] i386: move eVMCS enablement to hyperv_init_vcpu() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 11/21] i386: switch hyperv_expand_features() to using error_setg() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 12/21] i386: adjust the expected KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_HV_CPUID array size Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 13/21] i386: prefer system KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_HV_CPUID ioctl over vCPU's one Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 14/21] i386: use global kvm_state in hyperv_enabled() check Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 15/21] i386: expand Hyper-V features during CPU feature expansion time Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 16/21] i386: track explicit 'hv-*' features enablement/disablement Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 17:35   ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12  8:45     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 14:12       ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12 15:19         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 15:26           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 16:05             ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15  8:56               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-15 15:55                 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 17:05                   ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 18:12                   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12 16:01           ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15  8:53             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-15 10:48               ` Andrew Jones
2021-02-15 17:01               ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-15 18:11                 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-22 10:20                   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2021-02-23 15:19                     ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-23 15:46                       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-23 17:48                         ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-23 18:08                           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-24 16:06                             ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-24 17:00                               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-03-01 15:32                                 ` Igor Mammedov
2021-03-01 16:22                                   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 17/21] i386: support 'hv-passthrough, hv-feature=off' on the command line Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 17:14   ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12  8:49     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-12  9:29       ` David Edmondson
2021-02-12 13:52       ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 18/21] i386: be more picky about implicit 'hv-evmcs' enablement Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 19/21] i386: introduce kvm_hv_evmcs_available() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 20/21] i386: provide simple 'hv-default=on' option Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 17:23   ` Igor Mammedov
2021-02-12  8:52     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:40 ` [PATCH v4 21/21] qtest/hyperv: Introduce a simple hyper-v test Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-10 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] i386: KVM: expand Hyper-V features early and provide simple 'hv-default=on' option Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-10 17:46   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-02-11  8:30     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11  9:14       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-11  9:34         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2021-02-11 10:14           ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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