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From: Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org>
To: Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@virtuozzo.com>,
	fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [fuse-devel] fuse: when are release requests queued?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 12:19:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv9svnpk.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eb44a9-359f-68eb-fe42-614a0d9c8193@virtuozzo.com> (Maxim Patlasov's message of "Wed, 31 May 2017 10:50:57 -0700")

On May 31 2017, Maxim Patlasov <mpatlasov@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>>>> Can someone tell me at which point the fuse kernel module will send a
>>>> RELEASE request to userspace?
>>>
>>> Anytime after fuse_release(). It only puts request to background
>>> queue. Later, the request will be transferred to pending queue. And
>>> later, the userspace will fetch it by fuse_dev_do_read().
>>>
>>>> Is it possible that this is delayed until
>>>> after the close() syscall for the last fd has returned and userspace has
>>>> submitted a different fuse request for the same fs?
>>> I think it's possible. See how flush_bg_queue() do nothing if
>>> fc->active_background > fc->max_background.
>> Thanks Maxim! Not sure what I'd do with these issues without you :-).
>>
>>
>> Is there a way to deliberate trigger this behavior for debugging? For
>> example, is there a kernel equivalent of sleep(1) that I could put into
>> fuse_release()?
>
> schedule_timeout_interruptible(HZ).

Hmm. I made the following change in linux 4.10:

diff --git a/fs/fuse/file.c b/fs/fuse/file.c
index 2401c5..3568a8 100644
--- a/fs/fuse/file.c
+++ b/fs/fuse/file.c
@@ -252,6 +252,9 @@ void fuse_release_common(struct file *file, int opcode)
        if (unlikely(!ff))
                return;
 
+        // Wait a little to force race condition in userspace
+        schedule_timeout_interruptible(1);
+
        req = ff->reserved_req;
        fuse_prepare_release(ff, file->f_flags, opcode);
 

But when doing e.g. "echo test > newfile", the RELEASE request still
comes right away (judging from the libfuse debugging output).

Do I need to do something else?

> But it's better to instrument fuse
> userspace to postpone processing some i/o requests. Then you'll keep
> fc->active_background > fc->max_background for a while. During that
> period fuse_release may succeed with FUSE_RELEASE queued, but not
> passed to the userspace. Then you cat try to sneak another request --
> something not involving fuse background queue.

I don't know.. why is this better? It seems a lot more complicated. I
need to generate the extra request, add some switch to tell libfuse when
to start processing again, synchronize this with sneaking in the other
request...



Best,
-Nikolaus

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-31 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-25 23:08 fuse: when are release requests queued? Nikolaus Rath
2017-05-26 15:17 ` [fuse-devel] " David Butterfield
2017-05-26 23:11   ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-05-27  1:49     ` [fuse-devel] " Maxim Patlasov
2017-05-27  1:39 ` Maxim Patlasov
2017-05-29 16:49   ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-05-31 17:50     ` Maxim Patlasov
2017-05-31 19:19       ` Nikolaus Rath [this message]
2017-05-31 19:32         ` Maxim Patlasov
2017-05-31 19:41           ` Nikolaus Rath
     [not found]             ` <87inkgvmp0.fsf-Zv899e0YUSYPWKMTL/zdXNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-31 19:51               ` Michael Theall
2017-05-31 20:34                 ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-05-31 20:23             ` [fuse-devel] " Maxim Patlasov
2017-05-31 20:31               ` Nikolaus Rath
2017-05-31 20:47                 ` Maxim Patlasov

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