From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1GuTim-0002r6-OC for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:00:28 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GuTik-0002pL-NY for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:00:26 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GuTid-0002lj-I1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:00:21 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GuTic-0002lc-Gu for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:00:18 -0500 Received: from [194.109.24.22] (helo=smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GuTib-0001HD-7K for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:00:17 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain (249-174.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net [145.99.174.249]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBDD0FNp065228 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:00:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mgerards@xs4all.nl) From: Marco Gerards To: The development of GRUB 2 References: <20061204144520.GL3690@schottelius.org> <200612052046.53034.okuji@enbug.org> <200612110847.23864.subdino2004@yahoo.fr> Mail-Copies-To: mgerards@xs4all.nl Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:11:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200612110847.23864.subdino2004@yahoo.fr> (Vincent Pelletier's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:47:17 +0100") Message-ID: <87mz5sym80.fsf@xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: GRUB2 - testing report, hppa support? X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:00:27 -0000 Vincent Pelletier writes: > Le mardi 05 d=E9cembre 2006 20:46, Yoshinori K. Okuji a =E9crit=A0: >> > Oh, btw, it's HIGHLY confusing that disks start at 0, partitions at >> > 1. Could you please fix it and make it consequently? either hd1,1 >> > or hd0,0, but not hd0,1 or hd1,0. >> >> No. It is consistent with most operating systems, so less confusing to t= he >> user. GRUB Legacy used 0-based counting for partitions, and I have recei= ved >> an uncountable number of complaints. Thus it is really a bad idea to make >> GRUB inconsistent against other systems. > > But by changing the numbering, we void both the learning effort of the=20 > people "who knows" and the answering effort they spent with people "who d= on't=20 > know". At least, that's my position regarding to the change. > > By changing it we might both face the complaints of the people - like me = :) -=20 > who think the two numberings are inconsistent and the people who would ha= ve=20 > anyway complained about starting from 0, because disks are still numbered= =20 > from 0... We may also face complaints from the people who already complai= ned=20 > about starting from 0 - and eventually accepted it - and who will have to= =20 > learn again now... You can never make everyone happy. Whatever you propose, there will always be someone who disagrees. -- Marco