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Tsirkin" , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= , Alistair Francis , BALATON Zoltan , Daniel P . =?utf-8?Q?Berrang=C3=A9?= , Fabiano Rosas , Kevin Wolf , Peter Maydell , Warner Losh , Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] docs/devel: relax policy on AI-generated contributions In-Reply-To: <20260930085433.830743-2-pbonzini@redhat.com> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:54:30 +0200") References: <20260930085433.830743-1-pbonzini@redhat.com> <20260930085433.830743-2-pbonzini@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 10:44:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87o6btvzef.fsf@pond.sub.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) X-Archived-By: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.30.177.4 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=armbru@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: qemu development List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-26) on aws-us-west-2-korg-listserv-alma10-1 Paolo Bonzini writes: [...] > +LLM-assisted and LLM-created contributions > +'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > + > +Use of generative AI can be classified in the following four buckets: > + > +- "background" assistance, such as completion and code review. This does > + not need disclosure. > + > +- small LLM-assisted bugfixes (as a rule of thumb, below 10 lines of code) > + are allowed with disclosure. Splitting a submission in multiple parts > + is **not** a valid way to bypass this rule; repeated, frequent posting > + of such fixes must follow the rule for full contributions. > + > +- use of LLMs to help generating parts of a larger patch---test cases, > + adaptations of existing code, boilerplate code for a new API, a tool to > + help performing mechanical changes, etc. These are generally allowed; > + disclosure is highly recommended for non-trivial, functional code. Why only recommended? It's non-trival! Disclosure isn't much of a burden. Why not keep things simple and demand disclosure, no ifs, buts, or maybes? [...]