From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 23/23] migration: Use multifd before we check for the zero page
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:03:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o85k7u6e.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ya8NoTyiXOCQ/MLL@xz-m1.local> (Peter Xu's message of "Tue, 7 Dec 2021 15:30:41 +0800")
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 06:38:27PM +0100, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> This needs to be improved to be compatible with old versions.
>
> Any plan to let new binary work with old binary?
Yes, but I was waiting for 7.0 to get out. Basically I need to do:
if (old)
run the old code
else
new code
this needs to be done only in a couple of places, but I need the
machine_type 7.0 created to put the property there.
> Maybe boost the version field for multifd packet (along with a
> multifd_version=2 parameter and only set on new machine types)?
For now, we only need to add a flag for the ZERO_PAGE functionality. if
we are on older qemu, just don't test for zero pages. On reception, we
can just accept everything, i.e. if there are no zero pages, everything
is ok.
> PS: We should really have some handshake mechanism between src/dst, I dreamt it
> for a long time.. So that we only need to specify the capability/parameters on
> src someday and we'll never see incompatible migration failing randomly because
> the handshake should guarantee no stupid mistake.. Sad.
That has been on my ToDo list for too long, just need the time to do
it. It would make everything much, much easier.
>> But .... if we don't care about RDMA, why do we care about
>> control_save_page()?
>
> Could anyone help to explain why we don't care? I still see bugfixes coming..
Sentence was inside a context. We don't care for RDMA while we are on
multifd. If multifd ever supports RDMA, it would be a new
implementation that don't use such hooks.
IMVHO, RDMA implementation in qemu is quite bad. For historic reasons,
they needed to use qemu_file abstraction for comunication, so they are
dropping directly the ability of doing direct copies of pages.
So, if one is requiring to mlock all the guest memory on both sides to
use RDMA, the *right* thing to do from my point of view is just
"remotely" read the page without any overhead.
Yes, that requires quite a bit of changes, I was not suggesting that it
was a trivial task.
Later, Juan.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-13 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-24 10:05 [PATCH v3 00/23] Migration: Transmit and detect zero pages in the multifd threads Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/23] multifd: Delete useless operation Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 18:48 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-25 7:24 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 19:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-26 9:39 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/23] migration: Never call twice qemu_target_page_size() Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 18:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-25 7:26 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:05 ` [PATCH v3 03/23] multifd: Rename used field to num Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 19:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-25 7:28 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 18:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-13 9:34 ` Zheng Chuan via
2021-12-13 15:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:05 ` [PATCH v3 04/23] multifd: Add missing documention Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 18:38 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-26 9:34 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:05 ` [PATCH v3 05/23] multifd: The variable is only used inside the loop Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 18:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 06/23] multifd: remove used parameter from send_prepare() method Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 18:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 07/23] multifd: remove used parameter from send_recv_pages() method Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 18:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 08/23] multifd: Fill offset and block for reception Juan Quintela
2021-11-25 19:41 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 09/23] multifd: Make zstd compression method not use iovs Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 17:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 10/23] multifd: Make zlib " Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 17:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 11/23] multifd: Move iov from pages to params Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 17:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 12/23] multifd: Make zlib use iov's Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 18:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-29 18:21 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 13/23] multifd: Make zstd " Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 18:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 14/23] multifd: Remove send_write() method Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 18:19 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 15/23] multifd: Use a single writev on the send side Juan Quintela
2021-11-29 18:35 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 16/23] multifd: Unfold "used" variable by its value Juan Quintela
2021-11-30 10:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 17/23] multifd: Use normal pages array on the send side Juan Quintela
2021-11-30 10:50 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-30 12:01 ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-01 10:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 18/23] multifd: Use normal pages array on the recv side Juan Quintela
2021-12-07 7:11 ` Peter Xu
2021-12-10 10:41 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 19/23] multifd: recv side only needs the RAMBlock host address Juan Quintela
2021-12-01 18:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 20/23] multifd: Rename pages_used to normal_pages Juan Quintela
2021-12-01 19:00 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 21/23] multifd: Support for zero pages transmission Juan Quintela
2021-12-02 11:36 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-02 12:08 ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-02 16:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-02 16:19 ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-02 16:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-02 16:52 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 22/23] multifd: Zero " Juan Quintela
2021-12-02 16:42 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-02 16:49 ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-24 10:06 ` [PATCH v3 23/23] migration: Use multifd before we check for the zero page Juan Quintela
2021-12-02 17:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-02 17:38 ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-02 17:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-12-07 7:30 ` Peter Xu
2021-12-13 9:03 ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2021-12-15 1:39 ` Peter Xu
2021-11-24 10:24 ` [PATCH v3 00/23] Migration: Transmit and detect zero pages in the multifd threads Peter Xu
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