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From: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.ibm.com>
To: Alexander Amelkin <a.amelkin@yadro.com>,
	Lei YU <mine260309@gmail.com>,
	OpenBMC Maillist <openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: Romulus to use Virtual PNOR
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 11:39:18 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o97piwcp.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fdc48c10-5dc1-0fca-7b7c-d150307b9a37@yadro.com>

Alexander Amelkin <a.amelkin@yadro.com> writes:
> 25.01.2019 10:40, Lei YU wrote:
>> This email is to notify that Romulus is going to use VirtualPNOR feature, if
>> no objections are received.
>>
>> It **impacts** to existing Romulus systems, that they must do PNOR code update
>> when the feature is enabled.
>>
>> A little background on this topic could be found at:
>> https://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/openbmc/2018-May/011822.html
>> https://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/openbmc/2018-November/014112.html
>>
>> I did not receive any feedback, so I choose to use VritualPNOR feature,
>> which has below benefits:
>> 1. It requires minor code changes for a system to switch to VirtualPNOR;
>> 2. It gets full features, including PNOR version, code verification, and code
>>    update via new interface;
>> 3. When OpenBMC switches to Redfish, it will get Redfish code update for free,
>>    because IBM will implement Redfish code update based on VirtualPNOR.
>>
>> The related changes are:
>> * OpenBMC: https://gerrit.openbmc-project.xyz/#/q/topic:ubifs-pnor-for-romulus
>> * op-build: https://github.com/open-power/op-build/pull/2578
>>
>> Any objections?
>
> Well, the main concern is how it will affect vesnin, which is P8-based (like palmetto).
>
> All this virtual PNOR functionality is based on mbox/hiomap, which is
> not supported for P8 in openpower firmware.

For various reasons, this is now changing, so you'll be able to do hiomap
on P8.

> As a result, we suspect that palmetto and (what concerns us most)
> vesnin will lose firmware update support completely.

I think this is a valid concern, and I'd be concerned if there's tight
coupling between VPNOR and the firmware update APIs.

-- 
Stewart Smith
OPAL Architect, IBM.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-06  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-25  7:40 Romulus to use Virtual PNOR Lei YU
2019-01-29 15:01 ` Alexander Amelkin
2019-02-06  0:39   ` Stewart Smith [this message]
2019-02-06 15:01     ` Alexander Amelkin
2019-02-11  5:07       ` Andrew Jeffery
2019-02-06  0:38 ` Stewart Smith
2019-02-12  3:57 ` Joel Stanley
2019-02-14  3:03   ` Lei YU
2019-02-14 11:03     ` Alexander Amelkin
2019-02-15  6:48       ` Lei YU
2019-02-15 15:36         ` Alexander Amelkin
2019-02-14 13:13     ` Andrew Geissler
2019-02-14 21:31       ` Adriana Kobylak

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