From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de, fenghua.yu@intel.com,
hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, "Kleen\,
Andi" <andi.kleen@intel.com>,
alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] x86, fpu: correct and check XSAVE xstate size calculations
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 09:44:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oahr1hy6.fsf@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E070D3.1060208@sr71.net> (Dave Hansen's message of "Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:31:47 -0700")
Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net> writes:
>>
>> That would give us a gentle way to double check our assumptions here.
>
> Actually, the newest state that you will see in the wild is for
> Processor Trace, and it _is_ a supervisor state. However, we don't use
> it in Linux for our Processor Trace support, and Andi says we probably
> never will.
>
> So we probably shouldn't warn on it.
Yes we shouldn't. It would be unnecessary scary for people with old
kernels on newer hardware. Since supervisor state needs generally a
driver, it's harmless to ignore if there is none.
As to why Processor Trace is not using it:
The XSAVE support assumes that there is a single buffer for each
thread. But perf generally doesn't work this way, it usually has
only a single perf event per CPU per user, and when tracing
multiple threads on that CPU it inherits perf event buffers between
different threads. So XSAVE per thread cannot handle this inheritance
case directly.
Using multiple XSAVE areas (another one per perf event) would defeat
some of the state caching that the CPUs do.
In theory it would be possible to detect when inheritance is not used
and only use XSAVE in this case. But it's not clear that is common
enough and worth the trouble.
For now the manual MSR based switching seems to work well enough,
although it's more overhead.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-28 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-27 17:11 [PATCH 00/11] [v2] x86, fpu: XSAVE cleanups and sanity checks Dave Hansen
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 01/11] x86, fpu: kill LWP support Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 4:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 02/11] x86, fpu: rename xfeature_bit Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 5:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 03/11] x86, fpu: rework XSTATE_* macros to remove magic '2' Dave Hansen
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 04/11] x86, fpu: remove xfeature_nr Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 5:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 05/11] x86, fpu: add helper xfeature_nr_enabled() instead of test_bit() Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 5:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 06/11] x86, fpu: rework MPX 'xstate' types Dave Hansen
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86, fpu: rework YMM definition Dave Hansen
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 08/11] x86, fpu: add C structures for AVX-512 state components Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 5:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 10/11] x86, fpu: check to ensure increasing-offset xstate offsets Dave Hansen
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86, fpu: correct and check XSAVE xstate size calculations Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 4:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-28 14:31 ` Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 16:44 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2015-08-27 17:11 ` [PATCH 11/11] x86, fpu: check CPU-provided sizes against struct declarations Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 5:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-28 16:02 ` Dave Hansen
2015-08-28 5:18 ` [PATCH 00/11] [v2] x86, fpu: XSAVE cleanups and sanity checks Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-25 20:12 [PATCH 00/11] " Dave Hansen
2015-08-25 20:12 ` [PATCH 09/11] x86, fpu: correct and check XSAVE xstate size calculations Dave Hansen
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