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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@mailo.com>,
	"Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy" <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Akihiko Odaki" <odaki@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Sana Sharma" <sansshar@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
	qemu-rust@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.caveayland@nutanix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/10] qom: Create object-property-ptr.[ch]
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 17:37:56 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pl1y3zdn.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aimvTYDsv_-Xsboy@x1.local>

Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 05:15:59PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 09, 2026 at 01:25:09PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>> > Create object-property-ptr.[ch] files to include all the helpers for
>> > object_property_add*_ptr().
>> > 
>> > These set of helpers are handy because they look extremely familiar with
>> > qdev-properties, allowing the caller to provide a pointer and it will
>> > manage all the setters and getters.
>> > 
>> > The follow up patches may introduce more of such helpers.  Since object.c
>> > has been already too big, split that part out.
>> 
>> The "ptr" helpers are all instance level properties which is a concept
>> we discourage from new usage, in favour of class level properties.
>> 
>> I don't think we should be adding more "ptr" helpers, but rather
>> planning to eliminiate the (surprisingly little) usage of the
>> existing ones.
>
> The other way to do similar thing is qdev's offset way, but IMHO that's
> more awkward to remember an offset of a pointer then do math everytime.
> Essentially, from technical pov we need at least one uintptr_t to store
> either (1) offset, or (2) field pointer when there's a field that is bound
> to a prop.  IMHO (2) can be better otherwise we'll need to do all the maths
> to calculate offsets then when access we add the offset back and do a force
> cast.  It seems not necessary.
>

The more limiting aspect of using the offset is that MigrationParameters
needs to be embedded into MigrationState because the Object is
MigrationState and not MigrationParameters. We could try to solve that
issue specifically by making MigrationParameters a standalone object.

The main issue is that we would need to figure out how to set the compat
properties that are not part of MigrationParameters.

The other main issue =) is that we'd need to wrap this in another
structure because MigrationParameters is generated by QAPI.

A minor issue is that -object migration and -global migration use the
"migration" word from TYPE_MIGRATION, so the MigrationState would have
to be renamed.

We could actually solve the first two by doing similarly to what I did
in qom.json in my reply to the cover-letter:

struct MigrationOptions {
   MigrationParameters params;
   <compat props>
}

... then access it by offset. This is fine because we can then do
whatever we want with the MigrationOptions pointer without having to
follow the lifetime of MigrationState.

> OTOH, I still see value on non-class instance properties (that sometimes we
> don't even want to have some props avail for the class, but conditional to
> some instances when created dynamically).  If that is needed, IMHO it's
> fine we still provide per-instance properties.
>
> Is there any pointer I can read about the discussion previously on this?
>
> Thanks,


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-10 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-09 17:25 [PATCH v2 00/10] migration/qom: Remove TYPE_DEVICE dependency on migration object Peter Xu
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] migration: Use OBJECT_DECLARE_SIMPLE_TYPE Peter Xu
2026-06-09 22:55   ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 13:56   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 15:15   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] qdev: Export global_props() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 22:55   ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 15:18   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] qdev: Introduce DEFINE_PROP_*_NODEFAULT for bool/uint32 Peter Xu
2026-06-10 15:25   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] hw/arm: Use nodefault version of qdev props when not needed Peter Xu
2026-06-10 15:31   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] qom: Create object-property-ptr.[ch] Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:15   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 18:39     ` Peter Xu
2026-06-10 20:37       ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] qom: Add object_property_add_bool_ptr() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 23:18   ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] qom: Add object_property_add_size_ptr() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 23:18   ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] qom: Add object_property_add_*_ptr_def() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 23:21   ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] qom: Allow default values for instance properties Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:19   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] migration: Switch to TYPE_OBJECT with object properties Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:13   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 18:46     ` Peter Xu
2026-06-10 19:53       ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 20:18         ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 16:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 18:51     ` Peter Xu
2026-06-09 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] migration/qom: Remove TYPE_DEVICE dependency on migration object Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 18:30   ` Peter Xu

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