From: Francisco Jerez <currojerez@riseup.net>
To: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
lenb@kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net, mgorman@techsingularity.net
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
viresh.kumar@linaro.org, ggherdovich@suse.cz,
Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
Eero Tamminen <eero.t.tamminen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: intel_pstate: enable boost for Skylake Xeon
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:23:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnz7f6tl.fsf@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3afad4b13370fe0ba6ed5020f86ce1b8ff46c603.camel@linux.intel.com>
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Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com> writes:
> On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 22:34 -0700, Francisco Jerez wrote:
>> Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com> writes:
>>
>> > Enable HWP boost on Skylake server and workstations.
>> >
>>
>> Please revert this series, it led to significant energy usage and
>> graphics performance regressions [1].
> Which SKX platform is targeted to graphics?
>
See the bug report, it's a regular desktop SKL.
>> The reasons are roughly the ones
>> we discussed by e-mail off-list last April: This causes the
>> intel_pstate
>> driver to decrease the EPP to zero
> No. You didn't check this series. We are not using EPP at all.
> The boost mechanism used here is not boost to max.
>
I see you've changed the mechanism to obtain a latency boost since our
last discussion, but that doesn't address my concerns in any way: This
series causes the intel_pstate driver to clamp the CPU frequency above
the optimal frequency to run the workload at, as a response to the
application waiting on IO frequently, even though that's only a sign of
the application being IO-bound and *not* a sign of it being
latency-sensitive, since the application's IO and CPU work are properly
pipelined. This leads to a decrease in parallelism due to the active
CPU core using a larger fraction of the package TDP in order to achieve
the same work, leading to a decrease in system performance.
> Thanks,
> Srinivas
>
>> when the workload blocks on IO
>> frequently enough, which for the regressing benchmarks detailed in
>> [1]
>> is a symptom of the workload being heavily IO-bound, which means they
>> won't benefit at all from the EPP boost since they aren't
>> significantly
>> CPU-bound, and they will suffer a decrease in parallelism due to the
>> active CPU core using a larger fraction of the TDP in order to
>> achieve
>> the same work, causing the GPU to have a lower power budget
>> available,
>> leading to a decrease in system performance.
>>
>> You may want to give a shot to my previous suggestion of using [2] in
>> order to detect whether the system is IO-bound, which you can use as
>> an
>> indicator that the optimization implemented in this series cannot
>> possibly improve performance and can be expected to hurt energy
>> usage.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107410
>> [2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10312259/
>>
>> > Reported-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
>> > Tested-by: Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>
>> > Signed-off-by: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel
>> > .com>
>> > ---
>> > drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c | 10 ++++++++++
>> > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> > b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> > index 70bf63bb4e0e..01c8da1f99db 100644
>> > --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> > +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> > @@ -1794,6 +1794,12 @@ static const struct x86_cpu_id
>> > intel_pstate_cpu_ee_disable_ids[] = {
>> > {}
>> > };
>> >
>> > +static const struct x86_cpu_id intel_pstate_hwp_boost_ids[]
>> > __initconst = {
>> > + ICPU(INTEL_FAM6_SKYLAKE_X, core_funcs),
>> > + ICPU(INTEL_FAM6_SKYLAKE_DESKTOP, core_funcs),
>> > + {}
>> > +};
>> > +
>> > static int intel_pstate_init_cpu(unsigned int cpunum)
>> > {
>> > struct cpudata *cpu;
>> > @@ -1824,6 +1830,10 @@ static int intel_pstate_init_cpu(unsigned
>> > int cpunum)
>> > intel_pstate_disable_ee(cpunum);
>> >
>> > intel_pstate_hwp_enable(cpu);
>> > +
>> > + id = x86_match_cpu(intel_pstate_hwp_boost_ids);
>> > + if (id)
>> > + hwp_boost = true;
>> > }
>> >
>> > intel_pstate_get_cpu_pstates(cpu);
>> > --
>> > 2.13.6
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-28 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-05 21:42 [PATCH 0/4] Intel_pstate: HWP Dynamic performance boost Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-06-05 21:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Add HWP boost utility and sched util hooks Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-06-05 21:42 ` [PATCH 2/4] cpufreq: intel_pstate: HWP boost performance on IO wakeup Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-06-05 21:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] cpufreq: intel_pstate: New sysfs entry to control HWP boost Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-06-05 21:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: intel_pstate: enable boost for Skylake Xeon Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-07-28 5:34 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-28 5:34 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-28 12:36 ` Mel Gorman
2018-07-28 20:21 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-30 15:43 ` Mel Gorman
2018-07-30 15:57 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-07-30 18:32 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-31 7:10 ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2018-08-01 6:52 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-30 11:16 ` Eero Tamminen
2018-07-30 14:06 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-07-31 15:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-31 19:07 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-07-28 14:14 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-07-28 20:23 ` Francisco Jerez [this message]
[not found] ` <9828ba535fcdce8458593013fd1c67385a8fefb9.camel@intel.com>
2018-07-28 20:23 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-28 20:23 ` Francisco Jerez
2018-07-28 22:06 ` Pandruvada, Srinivas
2018-07-30 8:33 ` Eero Tamminen
2018-07-30 13:38 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-06-12 15:04 ` [PATCH 0/4] Intel_pstate: HWP Dynamic performance boost Rafael J. Wysocki
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