From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54F6DC04FE4 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qj25c-0005FY-Gl; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:38:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qj25a-0005EA-MZ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:38:18 -0400 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([170.10.129.124]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qj25Y-0004Ci-MM for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:38:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1695235095; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=vxEGOomhqeD2FENw5ngprh+gOOO1TwTmrMgyNhueWdc=; b=QIT1NiF2dbzSg7TZ8imdUsLATkpp7TNnxQ3VRik1OEwfOi8xYWlTBv0PcDXDeA4l/dFah8 VnzLEg8+/ZUzPFIgh6S+h4q0NpmHPryD9DyozTTn6SWj2gQxo8Fw2ikpJvsMF9br0eBdDf SI4RKzEvq50QN7vSqtJzuTLGLgdjVI4= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mx-ext.redhat.com [66.187.233.73]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-205-Cvh_KjQYPDypz5oj_Dlmow-1; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 14:38:10 -0400 X-MC-Unique: Cvh_KjQYPDypz5oj_Dlmow-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C88B1C06369; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blackfin.pond.sub.org (unknown [10.39.192.25]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8BBA20268CF; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by blackfin.pond.sub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7ACFF21E6900; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:38:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Armbruster To: Mark Cave-Ayland Cc: Philippe =?utf-8?Q?Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9?= , laurent@vivier.eu, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost , Peter Maydell , Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= , Daniel P. =?utf-8?Q?Berrang=C3=A9?= , Paolo Bonzini , =?utf-8?Q?Marc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/21] q800: add easc bool machine class property to switch between ASC and EASC References: <20230702154838.722809-1-mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk> <20230702154838.722809-11-mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk> <44e50cdb-37f0-c18d-4d64-0f34777a193d@linaro.org> <87ledd1eaz.fsf@pond.sub.org> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:38:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mark Cave-Ayland's message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2023 16:41:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87r0msbshc.fsf@pond.sub.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.4 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.129.124; envelope-from=armbru@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: 12 X-Spam_score: 1.2 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Mark Cave-Ayland writes: > On 11/09/2023 06:15, Markus Armbruster wrote: > >> Philippe Mathieu-Daud=C3=A9 writes: [...] >>> I'm not sure when we want a write-only QOM boolean property, so I >>> genuinely ask, since I agree introspecting QOM object fields from >>> the monitor is helpful. >> >> I suspect write-only properties came out of QOM's generality curse. Do >> we have even one? QOM's design makes this somewhat to tell. > > Good question. Given that it's towards the beginning of the next dev cycl= e, perhaps it is worth sending a patch to find out? ;) Getting rid of unused generality / unnecessary complexity is good.