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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	willy@infradead.org, mgorman@suse.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	jon.grimm@amd.com, bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
	jgross@suse.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] sched: define TIF_ALLOW_RESCHED
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:12:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0mstgtw.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875y44ibow.fsf@oracle.com>

On Wed, Sep 20 2023 at 17:58, Ankur Arora wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> writes:
>> So no, we don't need yet another knob. We keep them chucking along and
>> if they really want they can adopt to the new world order. :)
>
> Will they chuckle along, or die trying ;)?

Either way is fine :)

> I grepped for "preempt_enable|preempt_disable" for all the archs and
> hexagon and m68k don't seem to do any explicit accounting at all.
> (Though, neither do nios2 and openrisc, and both csky and microblaze
> only do it in the tlbflush path.)
>
>         arch/hexagon      0
>         arch/m68k         0
...
>         arch/s390        91
>         arch/mips       115
>         arch/x86        146
>         arch/powerpc    201
>
> My concern is given that we preempt on timeslice expiration for all
> three preemption models, we could end up preempting at an unsafe
> location.

As I said in my reply to Linus, that count is not really conclusive.

arch/m68k has a count of 0 and supports PREEMPT for the COLDFIRE
sub-architecture and I know for sure that at some point in the past
PREEMPT_RT was supported on COLDFIRE with minimal changes to the
architecture code.

That said, I'm pretty sure that quite some of these
preempt_disable/enable pairs in arch/* are subject to voodoo
programming, but that's a different problem to analyze.

> Still, not the most pressing of problems.

Exactly :)

Thanks,

        tglx
 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-21  2:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 214+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30 18:49 [PATCH v2 0/9] x86/clear_huge_page: multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] mm/clear_huge_page: allow arch override for clear_huge_page() Ankur Arora
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] mm/huge_page: separate clear_huge_page() and copy_huge_page() Ankur Arora
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] mm/huge_page: cleanup clear_/copy_subpage() Ankur Arora
2023-09-08 13:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-11 17:22     ` Ankur Arora
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2023-09-08 13:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] x86/clear_page: add clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] x86/clear_huge_page: multi-page clearing Ankur Arora
2023-08-31 18:26   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-08 12:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-13  6:43   ` Raghavendra K T
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] sched: define TIF_ALLOW_RESCHED Ankur Arora
2023-09-08  7:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 17:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-08 22:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-09  5:15         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-09  6:39           ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-09  9:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-09 20:04               ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-09  5:30       ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-09  9:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-09 20:15     ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-09 21:16       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-10  3:48         ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-10  4:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-10 10:01             ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-10 18:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-11 15:04                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-11 16:29                   ` andrew.cooper3
2023-09-11 17:04                   ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-12  8:26                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12 12:24                       ` Phil Auld
2023-09-12 12:33                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-18 23:42                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19  1:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19  8:03                           ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-19  8:43                             ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-19 13:43                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 13:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 12:30                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 13:00                             ` Arches that don't support PREEMPT Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 13:00                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 13:00                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 13:34                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-19 13:34                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-19 13:34                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-19 13:37                               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 13:37                                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 13:37                                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 13:42                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 13:42                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 13:42                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 13:48                                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 13:48                                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 13:48                                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 14:16                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 14:16                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 14:16                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-19 14:24                                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 14:24                                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 14:24                                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 14:32                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 14:32                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 14:32                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-19 15:31                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-19 15:31                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-19 15:31                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-20 14:38                                       ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-20 14:38                                         ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-20 14:38                                         ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-21 12:20                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-21 12:20                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-21 12:20                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-19 14:17                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 14:17                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 14:17                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 14:50                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-19 14:50                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-19 14:50                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-09-19 14:57                                         ` Matt Turner
2023-09-19 14:57                                           ` Matt Turner
2023-09-19 14:57                                           ` Matt Turner
2023-09-19 17:09                                         ` Ulrich Teichert
2023-09-19 17:09                                           ` Ulrich Teichert
2023-09-19 17:25                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 17:25                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 17:25                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 17:58                                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 17:58                                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 17:58                                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-09-19 18:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 18:31                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 18:31                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 18:38                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-19 18:38                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-19 18:38                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-19 18:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 18:52                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 18:52                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19 19:53                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 19:53                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 19:53                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20  7:32                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20  7:32                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20  7:32                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20  7:29                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20  7:29                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20  7:29                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-20  8:26                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20  8:26                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20  8:26                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20 10:37                                       ` David Laight
2023-09-20 10:37                                         ` David Laight
2023-09-20 10:37                                         ` David Laight
2023-09-19 14:21                                   ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 14:21                                     ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 14:21                                     ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 15:17                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 15:17                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 15:17                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 15:21                                       ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 15:21                                         ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 15:21                                         ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 16:22                                         ` Richard Weinberger
2023-09-19 16:22                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2023-09-19 16:22                                           ` Richard Weinberger
2023-09-19 16:41                                           ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 16:41                                             ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 16:41                                             ` Anton Ivanov
2023-09-19 17:33                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 17:33                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19 17:33                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-06 14:51                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-06 14:51                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-20 14:22                             ` [PATCH v2 7/9] sched: define TIF_ALLOW_RESCHED Ankur Arora
2023-09-20 20:51                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-21  0:14                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-21  0:58                                 ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-21  2:12                                   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-09-20 23:58                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-21  0:57                               ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-21  2:02                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-21  4:16                                   ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-21 13:59                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-21 16:00                               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-21 22:55                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-23  1:11                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-02 14:15                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-02 16:13                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-18  1:03                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 12:09                                       ` Ankur Arora
2023-10-18 17:51                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 22:53                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-18 23:25                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 13:16                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-18 14:31                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-18 17:55                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 18:00                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-18 18:13                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-19 12:37                                                 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2023-10-19 17:08                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 17:19                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 17:41                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-18 17:59                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-18 20:15                                           ` Ankur Arora
2023-10-18 20:42                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-19  0:21                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-19 19:13                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-20 21:59                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-20 22:56                                               ` Ankur Arora
2023-10-20 23:36                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-21  1:05                                                   ` Ankur Arora
2023-10-21  2:08                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-24 12:15                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-24 18:59                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-23 22:50                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-24  0:10                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-24  7:19                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-24  7:55                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-24 10:29                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-25  0:13                               ` Ankur Arora
2023-10-06 13:01                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-19  7:21                         ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-19 19:05                         ` Ankur Arora
2023-10-24 14:34                         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-25  1:49                           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-26  7:50                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-10-26 12:48                             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-11 16:48             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-11 20:50               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-11 21:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-12  7:20                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-12  7:38                     ` Ingo Molnar
2023-09-11 22:20                 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-11 23:10                   ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-11 23:16                     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-12 16:30                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-12  3:27                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-12 16:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-19  3:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-09-19  9:20     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-19  9:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] irqentry: define irqentry_exit_allow_resched() Ankur Arora
2023-09-08 12:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-11 17:24     ` Ankur Arora
2023-08-30 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] x86/clear_huge_page: make clear_contig_region() preemptible Ankur Arora
2023-09-08 12:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-03  8:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] x86/clear_huge_page: multi-page clearing Mateusz Guzik
2023-09-05 22:14   ` Ankur Arora
2023-09-08  2:18   ` Raghavendra K T
2023-09-05  1:06 ` Raghavendra K T
2023-09-05 19:36   ` Ankur Arora

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