From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, dinechin@redhat.com,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] module: add Error arguments to module_load_one and module_load_qom_one
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 15:20:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r103lf4y.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a656f0f-1497-5569-e562-f537b115daf3@suse.de> (Claudio Fontana's message of "Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:45:40 +0200")
Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de> writes:
[...]
> I think it would be better to completely make the return value separate from the Error,
> and really treat Error as an exception and not mix it up with the regular execution,
>
> but if it is the general consensus that I am the only one seeing this conflation problem we can model it this way too.
It's a matter of language pragmatics. In Java, you throw an exception
on error. In C, you return an error value.
Trying to emulate exceptions in C might be even more unadvisable than
trying to avoid them in Java. Best to work with the language, not
against it.
Trouble is the error values we can conveniently return in C can't convey
enough information. So we use Error for that. Just like GLib uses
GError.
More modern languages do "return error value" much better than C can. C
is what it is.
We could certainly argue how to do better than we do now in QEMU's C
code. However, the Error API is used all over the place, which makes
changing it expensive. "Rethinking the whole Error API" (your words)
would have to generate benefits worth this expense. Which seems
unlikely.
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-22 14:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-08 18:30 [PATCH v4 0/3] improve error handling for module load Claudio Fontana
2022-09-08 18:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] module: removed unused function argument "mayfail" Claudio Fontana
2022-09-08 18:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] module: add Error arguments to module_load_one and module_load_qom_one Claudio Fontana
2022-09-15 8:43 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-16 8:13 ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-16 8:16 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-16 9:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-16 10:48 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-16 14:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-16 15:06 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-19 8:17 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-19 8:45 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-21 12:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-19 10:18 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-09-21 12:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-21 16:03 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 6:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-22 8:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 9:20 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 9:21 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 9:27 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 9:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 9:34 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 10:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 12:30 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 12:33 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 12:35 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 9:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-22 9:43 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 12:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-22 12:45 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 13:20 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2022-09-22 13:33 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 14:36 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-22 15:22 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-23 5:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-23 9:40 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 13:34 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
2022-09-22 13:42 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 13:44 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:01 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 14:54 ` Kevin Wolf
2022-09-22 15:08 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 15:27 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-09-22 15:51 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-22 17:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2022-09-23 9:42 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-23 9:44 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-09-25 10:35 ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-08 18:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] accel: abort if we fail to load the accelerator plugin Claudio Fontana
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