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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Cc: "Victor Toso" <victortoso@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>, "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/8] qapi: add generator for Golang interface
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 16:10:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r14hg0su.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABJz62Oi4Yq3n8Mf4uikycD_BZrDhCj8zG1pFVNhv+N2-Q8naw@mail.gmail.com> (Andrea Bolognani's message of "Wed, 25 May 2022 08:49:19 -0500")

Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 02:30:11PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Victor Toso <victortoso@redhat.com> writes:
>> > IMHO, at this moment, qapi-go is targeting communicating with
>> > QEMU and handling multiple QEMU versions seems reasonable to me.
>>
>> It's targeting communicating in *QMP*.  QMP is designed to support
>> communicating with a range of QEMU versions.  Full compatibility is
>> promised for a narrow range.  Outside that range, graceful degradation.
>>
>> *If* you want to widen the full compatibility range, do it in *QMP*.  Or
>> do it on top of QEMU, e.g. in libvirt.
>>
>> > Perhaps libvirt can use qapi-go in the future or other generated
>> > interface. That would be cool.
>>
>> "Would be cool" and a dollar buys you a cup of bad coffee.
>>
>> Is it a good use of our limited resources?
>>
>> How much will it delay delivery of Go bindings compared to less
>> ambitious version?
>
> Yeah, this thread has basically branched to cover three topics:
>
>   1. what an MVP Go interface for QMP should look like;
>   2. how to make sure said interface uses pretty names;
>   3. how to make it work across multiple QEMU versions.
>
> All of these are important in the long run, but as far as I'm
> concerned only 1. is an actual blocker to making progress.
>
> If we get to the point where we can generate a reasonably complete
> and well-typed Go interface that can be used to communicate with a
> single version of QEMU, we should just plaster EXPERIMENTAL all over
> it and get it merged.
>
> Basically get the MVP done and then iterate over it in-tree rather
> than trying to get everything perfect from the start.
>
> Sounds reasonable?

Yes, with an undogmatic interpretation of "minimally viable".  Doing
more should be okay when it doesn't complicate things outside the
Go-generating backend.

Exploring how to generate Go bindings that make good use of static
typing will be interesting enough.  Aiming for wide compatibility in
addition risks delay and/or failure.  Exploding heads, too.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-25 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-01 22:40 [RFC PATCH v1 0/8] qapi: add generator for Golang interface Victor Toso
2022-04-01 22:40 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/8] qapi: golang: Generate qapi's enum types in Go Victor Toso
2022-05-10 10:06   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 11:15     ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 11:19       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 11:28         ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 11:39           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-04-01 22:40 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/8] qapi: golang: Generate qapi's alternate " Victor Toso
2022-05-10 10:10   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 11:21     ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 11:28       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-04-01 22:40 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/8] qapi: golang: Generate qapi's struct " Victor Toso
2022-04-01 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/8] qapi: golang: Generate qapi's union " Victor Toso
2022-05-10 10:26   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 11:32     ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 11:42       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-04-01 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/8] qapi: golang: Generate qapi's event " Victor Toso
2022-05-10 10:42   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 11:38     ` Victor Toso
2022-04-01 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/8] qapi: golang: Generate qapi's command " Victor Toso
2022-04-01 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH v1 7/8] qapi: golang: Add CommandResult type to Go Victor Toso
2022-04-01 22:41 ` [RFC PATCH v1 8/8] qapi: golang: document skip function visit_array_types Victor Toso
2022-04-19 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/8] qapi: add generator for Golang interface Andrea Bolognani
2022-04-19 18:42   ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-04-28 13:50   ` Markus Armbruster
2022-04-29 13:15     ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-02  7:21       ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-02  9:04         ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-02 11:46           ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-02 14:01             ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-03  7:57               ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-03  9:40                 ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-03 11:04                   ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-10  9:55                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-11  6:15                   ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-09 18:53               ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10  8:06                 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-10 11:48                   ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10  9:52               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 15:25                 ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-11 13:45                 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-09 10:21   ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 17:37     ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-10 18:02       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-04-26 11:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-09 10:52   ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10  8:53   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10  9:06     ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10  9:17       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10  9:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 10:50           ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 10:57             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 12:02     ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-10 12:34       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-10 12:51         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-11 14:17           ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-11 14:41             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-11 15:38           ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-11 15:50             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-11 16:22               ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-11 16:32                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-18  8:10               ` Victor Toso
2022-05-18  8:51                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-05-18  9:01                   ` Victor Toso
2022-05-11 14:17         ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-18  8:55           ` Victor Toso
2022-05-18 12:30             ` Markus Armbruster
2022-05-25 13:49               ` Andrea Bolognani
2022-05-25 14:10                 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2022-06-01 13:53                 ` Victor Toso
2022-05-10 10:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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