From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, imammedo@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/25] keyval: simplify keyval_parse_one
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:44:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1mdyo1j.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84476bff-27ba-4308-cd9f-cbc1dc233831@redhat.com> (Paolo Bonzini's message of "Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:00:07 +0100")
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
> On 22/01/21 14:48, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> --nbd .key=
>> master: Invalid parameter '..key'
>> your patch: same
>> Likweise.
>> If I omit the '=', your patch's message changes to
>> No implicit parameter name for value 'key..'
>> I consider that worse than before, because it's talking about
>> something outside the user's control (lack of an implict parameter
>> name) where it should instead tell the user what needs fixing in the
>> input.
>
> I think whether it's better or worse depends on the specific erroneous
> command line (think "--nbd /path/to/file.qcow2"), but I can certainly
> change it.
Quoting myself: Error messages based on guesses what the user has in
mind can be quite confusing when we guess wrong. A strictly factual
syntax error style like "I expected FOO instead of BAR here" may not be
great, but has a relatively low risk of being confusing.
>> Your patch also adds an "Expected parameter at end of string" error.
>> Can you tell me how to trigger it?
>
> It is meant for "--nbd ''" but it is effectively dead code due to the
> "while (*s)" in the caller. Possibilities:
>
> 1) leave it in as dead code
I'd prefer not to.
> 2) replace it with an assert
Works for me.
> 3) change the caller to use a do...while in such a way that it
> triggers it (and be careful not to change the grammar).
Only if it's not too hard, and results in better error messages.
>> I believe your grammar is ambiguous. Your code seems to pick the sane
>> alternative. If I'm wrong, you need to enlighten me. If I'm right, you
>> need to fix your grammar.
>
> Will do. Can I change the EBNF to use "+" and "*" for simplicity and
> clarity?
I tried to stick to ISO 14977 as described in
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form>, less
its foolish ',' for concatenation. I'm not at all enamored with it.
All I want is something that is widely understood, and preferably not
invented here. Switch to <https://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#sec-notation>
perhaps?
[...]
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-18 16:30 [PATCH 00/25] qemu-option, keyval, vl: switch -object/-M/-accel to keyval parsing Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 01/25] qemu-option: clean up id vs. list->merge_lists Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-19 12:33 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-01-19 13:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-19 14:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-20 8:03 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-20 12:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-20 12:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 02/25] qemu-option: move help handling to get_opt_name_value Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-19 15:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 03/25] qemu-option: warn for short-form boolean options Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-19 15:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-19 17:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-20 8:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-20 12:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-20 12:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-20 14:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 04/25] keyval: accept escaped commas in implied option Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-21 12:58 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-22 8:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 05/25] keyval: simplify keyval_parse_one Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-22 13:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-22 15:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-22 15:44 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 06/25] tests: convert check-qom-proplist to keyval Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-22 14:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-22 14:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-22 14:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 07/25] keyval: introduce keyval_parse_into Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-22 14:22 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-22 14:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 08/25] hmp: replace "O" parser with keyval Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 9:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-02-26 11:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-01 10:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-01 10:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-01 13:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-01 10:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-01 11:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 09/25] qom: use qemu_printf to print help for user-creatable objects Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 12:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 10/25] hmp: special case help options for object_add Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 12:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-25 12:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 14:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 16:30 ` [PATCH 11/25] remove -writeconfig Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 12:53 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-25 14:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 14:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 12/25] qemu-config: add error propagation to qemu_config_parse Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 13:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 13/25] qemu-option: support accept-any QemuOptsList in qemu_opts_absorb_qdict Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 14/25] qemu-config: parse configuration files to a QDict Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 15/25] vl: plumb keyval-based options into -set and -readconfig Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25 11:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-25 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 16/25] qom: do not modify QDict argument in user_creatable_add_dict Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 17/25] qemu-io: use keyval for -object parsing Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 18/25] qemu-nbd: " Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 19/25] qemu-img: " Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 20/25] qemu: " Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 21/25] storage-daemon: do not register the "object" group with QemuOpts Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 22/25] qom: export more functions for use with non-UserCreatable objects Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 23/25] vl: switch -M parsing to keyval Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 24/25] qemu-option: remove now-dead code Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 16:31 ` [PATCH 25/25] vl: switch -accel parsing to keyval Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-18 17:18 ` [PATCH 00/25] qemu-option, keyval, vl: switch -object/-M/-accel to keyval parsing no-reply
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