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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
Cc: kys@microsoft.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@linuxdriverproject.org
Subject: Re: move hyperv CHANNELMSG_UNLOAD from crashed kernel to kdump kernel
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:26:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3594hef.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161207085110.GC1618@aepfle.de> (Olaf Hering's message of "Wed, 7 Dec 2016 09:51:10 +0100")

Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de> writes:

> KY,
>
> if a hyperv VM crashes alot of work must be done to prepare the
> environment for the kdump kernel. This approach is different compared to
> all the other VM types, or baremetal. Since the just crashed kernel is
> per definition unreliable all that work should be done within the kdump
> kernel because I think a reliable environment exists only there.
>
> Was it ever considered to do the CHANNELMSG_UNLOAD /
> CHANNELMSG_UNLOAD_RESPONSE work during boot, instead of doing it before
> starting the kexec/kdump kernel?

Sorry guys I missed the discussion, I was on vacation.

I see a number of minor but at least one major issue against such move:
At least for some Hyper-V versions (2012R2 for example)
CHANNELMSG_UNLOAD_RESPONSE is delivered to the CPU which initially sent 
CHANNELMSG_REQUESTOFFERS and on kdump we may not have this CPU up as
we usually do kdump with nr_cpus=1 (and on the CPU which crashed). 

Minor issue is the necessity preserve the information about
message/events pages across kexec.

>
> What would it take to prepare the runtime environment during boot?
> Does the newly booted kernel need any info from the previous kernel,
> something that cant be determined during boot? If yes, how can such info
> be passed from the old kernel to the new kernel?
>
> Olaf
>

-- 
  Vitaly

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-15 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-07  8:51 move hyperv CHANNELMSG_UNLOAD from crashed kernel to kdump kernel Olaf Hering
2016-12-07 15:04 ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-07 15:46   ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-07 16:10     ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-07 16:19       ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-07 16:24         ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-07 16:39           ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-07 18:11             ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-15 10:26 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2016-12-15 10:34   ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-15 10:36     ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-15 10:54       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2016-12-15 10:54     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2016-12-15 12:51       ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-15 13:28         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2016-12-15 13:51           ` Olaf Hering
2016-12-15 14:32             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2016-12-16  0:51               ` KY Srinivasan
2016-12-15 15:16           ` Olaf Hering

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