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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, carlos <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 14:29:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sgzrvs5t.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <644835950.10383.1542907783295.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (Mathieu Desnoyers's message of "Thu, 22 Nov 2018 12:29:43 -0500 (EST)")

* Mathieu Desnoyers:

>>>> I don't think you need unregistering if the memory is initial-exec TLS
>>>> memory.  Initial-exec TLS memory is tied directly to the TCB and cannot
>>>> be freed while the thread is running, so it should be safe to put the
>>>> rseq area there even if glibc knows nothing about it.
>>>
>>> Is it true for user-supplied stacks as well ?
>> 
>> I'm not entirely sure because the glibc terminology is confusing, but I
>> think it places intial-exec TLS into the static TLS area (so that it has
>> a fixed offset from the TCB).  The static TLS area is placed on the
>> user-supplied stack.
>
> You said earlier in the email thread that user-supplied stack can be
> reclaimed by __free_tcb () while the thread still runs, am I correct ?
> If so, then we really want to unregister the rseq TLS before that.

No, dynamic TLS can be reclaimed.  Static TLS (which I assume includes
initial-exec TLS) is not deallocated.

> I notice that __free_tcb () calls __deallocate_stack (), which invokes
> _dl_deallocate_tls (). Accessing the TLS from the kernel upon preemption
> would appear fragile after this call.

_dl_deallocate_tls only covers dynamic TLS.

Thanks,
Florian

      reply	other threads:[~2018-11-23 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21 18:39 [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-21 18:39 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/5] glibc: sched_getcpu(): use rseq cpu_id TLS on Linux Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 14:36 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/5] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at nptl init and thread creation Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:04   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:11     ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 15:17       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:21         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 15:33           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:44             ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 16:24             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-22 18:35               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 19:01                 ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 19:36                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 15:14     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-22 15:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 16:28         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 16:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22 16:59             ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-22 17:10               ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 13:10                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 14:28                   ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 17:05                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 17:30                       ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 17:39                         ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 17:44                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 18:01                             ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-23 17:52                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 18:35                           ` Rich Felker
2018-11-23 21:09                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26  8:28                               ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 15:51                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 16:03                                   ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-26 17:10                                     ` Rich Felker
2018-11-26 19:22                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-12-03 21:30                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 16:30                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 17:07                                     ` Rich Felker
2018-12-05 17:24                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-26 11:56                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2018-11-22 17:29               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-23 13:29                 ` Florian Weimer [this message]

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